Uhh, ever fold KK pf here? .5/1.
 

http://www.pokerhand.org/?1614369

I'm getting a possible return of 170 on an investment of $135.

This is TT-KK/AK enough to call?

So lost here.

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if im reading the action correctly, i would never consider folding. he can be isorerasing TT vs shortstack. go all in and be happy about it.

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You should fold if you hate money.

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there should be a rule about posting hhs IN LINE only

that being said 100nl KK - all you can eat BABY!

also - i just tried to read the HH - wtf?

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You should fold if you hate money.

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You should call here, sorry he had 77 and hit quads.

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if im reading the action correctly, i would never consider folding. he can be isorerasing TT vs shortstack. go all in and be happy about it.

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[x] lol

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isoraise vs shortstack probably

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didn't read hand... go all in

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fold, this is always AA...

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THIS ISN'T CLOSE!!!! I always open these threads to see a spot where you should actually fold KK, but this is getting rididculous.

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fold, this is always AA

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fold, this is always AA

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why did you only quote part of my post

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Well obv he had AA. I decided I was posting the hand either way because I was tempted to fold.

It's a terrible play with AA making it an easy call. It's genius against like a fifth of my range.

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Well obv he had AA. I decided I was posting the hand either way because I was tempted to fold.

It's a terrible play with AA making it an easy call. It's genius against like a fifth of my range.

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yeah. anyone who regularly does this with AA hates money

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Well obv he had AA. I decided I was posting the hand either way because I was tempted to fold.

It's a terrible play with AA making it an easy call. It's genius against like a fifth of my range.

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yeah. anyone who regularly does this with AA hates money

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Agreed. Later on in the match there was an unraised pot in my BB. I had 45hh. Flop was 6h7hTx, he donks, I raise 3x, he pushes for 130bb. I tank and call just because I love to gamble and want to suck out on this guy. 66 scoops. Terrible call, but I just had to know.

He really does hate money. I obviously hate it more though.

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Since when shoving AA preflop is hating money?

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Well obv he had AA. I decided I was posting the hand either way because I was tempted to fold.

It's a terrible play with AA making it an easy call. It's genius against like a fifth of my range.

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yeah. anyone who regularly does this with AA hates money

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Agreed. Later on in the match there was an unraised pot in my BB. I had 45hh. Flop was 6h7hTx, he donks, I raise 3x, he pushes for 130bb. I tank and call just because I love to gamble and want to suck out on this guy. 66 scoops. Terrible call, but I just had to know.

He really does hate money. I obviously hate it more though.

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i wouldve snapcalled prob. GAMBOOOOOOOOLOLOLOL [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Since when shoving AA preflop is hating money?

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sigh. reread the hand, and if you decide shoving AA is the most optimal line for the villain, then ill answer your question.

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For all I can see its an isolation raise that I would do with 99+, AQs+. Probably not all in, but its a only cosmetic difference since it is clear I am calling all in regardless.

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i think the guy with AA should either call or make it like 50, that way hero would still have a chance to make a play, and its not like pps have odds to setmine anyway

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If he calls/raises I'm obviously raising strong creating a huge overlay. God his play was bad. Really shoulda let me hang myself.

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i think the guy with AA should either call or make it like 50, that way hero would still have a chance to make a play, and its not like pps have odds to setmine anyway

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And you dont find this suspicious? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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i think the guy with AA should either call or make it like 50, that way hero would still have a chance to make a play, and its not like pps have odds to setmine anyway

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And you dont find this suspicious? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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i mean, any raise is suspicious, but at least a &lt; AI raise has a chance of being called/reraised...AI is just too much of an overbet to expect action from anything but QQ+.

i personally would really like flatting in villains spot.

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Sorry, I don't see it this way. To me a big raise is iso. A small raise - villain wants you in the pot.

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Sorry, I don't see it this way. To me a big raise is iso. A small raise - villain wants you in the pot.

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i agree normally, but in this spot i think shoving is still -EV compared to flatting or raising smaller. people just dont call off stacks when you shove 150bb unless it was going to be a cooler anyway.

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callcallcall

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there should be a rule about posting hhs IN LINE only

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Well obv he had AA. I decided I was posting the hand either way because I was tempted to fold.

It's a terrible play with AA making it an easy call. It's genius against like a fifth of my range.

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yeah. anyone who regularly does this with AA hates money

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Agreed. Later on in the match there was an unraised pot in my BB. I had 45hh. Flop was 6h7hTx, he donks, I raise 3x, he pushes for 130bb. I tank and call just because I love to gamble and want to suck out on this guy. 66 scoops. Terrible call, but I just had to know.

He really does hate money. I obviously hate it more though.

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I think this is fine. your getting good odds.