K9s did I play it correctlyin BB?
 

SB is 19.49/5.13/1.6 195hands

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls.

Flop: (5 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero ?

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Call down, or fold to his river bet? Or fold to his raise on the turn? Mid weak kicker... but it's HU and a blind war, so I'm giving my top split pair more credit. Villian could have hit a straight, KQ or some Kx kicker better than me.

Re: K9s did I play it correctlyin BB?
 

I call, 1/9.5 odds.

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Or fold to his raise on the turn?

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You have a fd a gut + TPMK.

Why would you ever fold on the turn? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

I would consider 3-betting the turn. But calling is prolly best.

Dont fold the river. There is worse Kx and QJ, JT and pure bluffs in his range.

STOP FOLDING!

Re: K9s did I play it correctlyin BB?
 

nh, folding TPMK in blind wars is like ... bad n stuff. 3-betting is spew since you'll get capped by better hands and there is a good chance he is bluffing or semi bluffing.

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A read would be helpfull here...

Turn
Call it down, Ac-x, AJ, and several other hands could be in villans holdings

River
is a blank for both... just call it down and take note.


Rig

Re: K9s did I play it correctlyin BB?
 

I would 3bet the turn and bet the river.

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I would call the river for sure.

You CANNOT fold the turn, you turned a gutshot AND a flush draw. Not to mention you already have top pair.

Re: K9s did I play it correctlyin BB?
 

I posted this hand, cos according to my stats in PT, K9 - KT offsuit and suited are one of my biggest leaks. I have 336 hands on them and I'm bleeding thru them!!

That's why I'm trying to see how I should have played these hands.

Anyway, for the above hand, The villian held KT, made a 2 pair and decided to raise on the turn.

Here's another hand...

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (4.40 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, MP3 calls.

Turn: (4.20 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls.

River: (6.20 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero ???

Should I have checked the river? Villian would have almost bet if I checked. Is my play throughout the hand correct?

Re: K9s did I play it correctlyin BB?
 

3-bet the turn. this is a blind war.

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Don't fold turn, call river [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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336 hands is not a large enough sample size to draw any conclusions.

As for your second hand, fold preflop. Don't bet river without a spade.

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3-bet the turn. this is a blind war.

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Look at the stats again, there's a good chance villain doesn't notice or care.

Hand 2: check river, fold as played.

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As for your second hand, fold preflop. Don't bet river without a spade.

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it's probably closer to a raise than a fold

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As for your second hand, fold preflop. Don't bet river without a spade.

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it's probably closer to a raise than a fold

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So you're saying, we check/raise to cause villian to fold? Why so? If villian has a spade, he'll definitely call, and we lose 2 bets. why not just check call?

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jesus christ that 2nd hand is bad...

hand 1 - i call the turn to play perfectly on river, we still get to raise when we make our flush. dont fold ever ever ever

hand 2 - dont bet the river, dont call the river raise

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As for your second hand, fold preflop. Don't bet river without a spade.

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it's probably closer to a raise than a fold

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So you're saying, we check/raise to cause villian to fold? Why so? If villian has a spade, he'll definitely call, and we lose 2 bets. why not just check call?

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wrong hand, reread the statement I was responding to

Re: K9s did I play it correctlyin BB?
 

Xhad, why would raise be good with K9s preflop in the button? This is a very marginal hand, I thought calling would be good to see what the flop brings us. I dun really see how a raise would be of value. Those who limped could have you dominated easily with some KT+, or Ax.

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the so common check/call flop, check/raise turn scenario... after the river it is common to see that he either had a big hand preflop but slowplayed it, or did actually flop something big but chose to wait the turn to raise...

a little timing tell here, when the op quickly raises the turn I have noticed that it raises the chance that he is playing something that he had preflop or flopped rather than turned... surely not quite reliable, but just an observation...

but in this scenario i think there is a worthwhile possiblity that he picked up a flush draw while pairing his queen and bet as a semi-bluff and bluff bet the river with his queens to make a call on the river profitable... if he has a king your are surely beat, you are beat to his possible straight but your king top pair may be good at least 12% to make it worthwhile to call...


ps. folding to the turn raise is out of the question as you picked up a second nut flush draw with a weak gutshot straight draw and have the odds to continue...

Re: K9s did I play it correctlyin BB?
 

If I were in the situation, I probably would call the flop, check/call the turn and the river.

Would fold the flop be an acceptable play since it is a monotone board?

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Xhad, why would raise be good with K9s preflop in the button? This is a very marginal hand, I thought calling would be good to see what the flop brings us. I dun really see how a raise would be of value. Those who limped could have you dominated easily with some KT+, or Ax.

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They could, but probably don't. I like limping best of all (I said raise &gt; fold, I don't think either is correct in this spot) but against very loose ranges you can win pairing either card and you have flush value + position (which can lead to you taking a free card on the flop or turn if you want it). I just got done posting in a thread in small stakes where a good player raised in this type of spot in a 10/20 game with 98s.

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If I were in the situation, I probably would call the flop, check/call the turn and the river.

Would fold the flop be an acceptable play since it is a monotone board?

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You're giving up way too much against worse 9's and the naked A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]