200nl: crappy spot with ak
 

villain is 25/7 over 60 hands. no real history with him.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $422.40
BTN: $210.75
SB: $224.65
BB: $527.55
UTG: $193
UTG+1: $205.75
UTG+2: $222.65
Hero (MP1): $498.20
MP2: $270.45

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP1)
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $2, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls $9, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls $7

Flop: ($30) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG+2 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $20</font>, CO calls $20, UTG+2 calls $20

Turn: ($90) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">UTG+2 bets $82</font>, <font color="red">Hero...?

Re: 200nl: crappy spot with ak
 

with a player behind I'd fold.

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with a player behind I'd fold.

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especially as deep as CO is. this spot is gross.

Re: 200nl: crappy spot with ak
 

i hate folding tptk w/ nut draw, but utg+2 has an awesome hand almost every time, and co could have something as well

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Reads/notes on CO would be super.

EDIT: Actually, it might be a fold regardless of how CO plays. This spot sucks.

Re: 200nl: crappy spot with ak
 

def beat by at least one of them if not both

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wouldn't think twice about folding

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I think with all the money at stake, a call is in order. IDEAL scenario, you call, CO makes it 175, UTG calls, you call, hit your card and take down a monster.

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I think with all the money at stake, a call is in order. IDEAL scenario, you call, CO makes it 175, UTG calls, you call, hit your card and take down a monster.

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first off, that is absolutely ideal. but will probably never happen

2nd, remember that our nut cards put 4 flushes on board, aka, no pay off from CO. also, an A or K is almost never good in this pot for outs. so its foldy time

Re: 200nl: crappy spot with ak
 

I would bet more flop. As played fold.

Re: 200nl: crappy spot with ak
 

muck it quickly

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Reads/notes on CO would be super.

EDIT: Actually, it might be a fold regardless of how CO plays. This spot sucks.

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I hate situations like this because we might be good, but I think a call is a quasi-FPS leak, i.e., "I'm not letting him scare me away because he knows I have to fold with the big stack-caller still to act."

If that was his fancy play, he executed well... I'm definitely watching closely to see if he makes a habit out of it.

Re: 200nl: crappy spot with ak
 

yea i'm pretty sure this is a fold.

the hand happened at the tail end of a long session and i was very tired. i didn't even notice there was a third player behind me and thought it was a 3-bet pot. i shoved, CO folded, and the UTG+2 player stacked me with a baby flush.

i quit right after that hand once i realized what happened. i would have folded if i knew the other player was in the hand.

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muck it quickly

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no

think about the situation and math for a while, fold, then forget about the hand quickly.