NL100 - Who\'s house is nicer?
 

Villain 42/11/0.69
Me 24/20/6

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $102.60
UTG: $180.45
MP: $105.10
Hero (CO): $108.85
BTN: $34.50
SB: $154.85

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $2</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.50</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $5.50

Flop: ($16.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 6http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11.50</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $31</font>, <font color="red">

Hero ????

Re: NL100 - Who\'s house is nicer?
 

his

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Fold. Not close. Drooler ain't folding an overpair and I don't think drooler with .69 agg factor is doing this with 22-55, like, ever.

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ur fcked.

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Fold. Not close. Drooler ain't folding an overpair and I don't think drooler with .69 agg factor is doing this with 22-55, like, ever.

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i dunno, droolers are droolers for a reason, i'm not sure how you know his thought process here exactly.

I'd call this bet, reeval turn/river

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So I thought about this one and one theorem (Baluga? Yeti? I always confuse them) popped into my head. Nobody ever folds a full house - particularly a drooler.

With 88, I figured I'm middle of the road against a minraiser. While a 0.69 AF certainly makes the CR look more intimidating, it doesn't necessarily mean a monster, particularly if he has a high WTSD % (though I don't recall if this was the case here).

At that point, I figured if I shove, he calls with a lower pp a decent amount of the time, folds a mid pp a fraction of the time, calls w/ overcards to snap off my bluff a reasonable amount of the time, and clearly has me crushed some of the time as well.

Overall, I figured a lot of worse hands call and shoved.

Terrible?

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So I thought about this one and one theorem (Baluga? Yeti? I always confuse them) popped into my head.

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Zeebo.

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So I thought about this one and one theorem (Baluga? Yeti? I always confuse them) popped into my head.

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Zeebo.

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Thank you sir. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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whose house???

run's house

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figured if I shove, he calls with a lower pp a decent amount of the time, folds a mid pp a fraction of the time, calls w/ overcards to snap off my bluff a reasonable amount of the time

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this seems kinda backwards

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figured if I shove, he calls with a lower pp a decent amount of the time, folds a mid pp a fraction of the time, calls w/ overcards to snap off my bluff a reasonable amount of the time

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this seems kinda backwards

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Yeah, there are some contradictory arguments there, however I reconcile this with the fact that a) he's an unknown, b) he's a drooler who is likely fairly inconsistent in his decision making.

This is really my simple mental equity calc if that makes any sense.

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whose house???

run's house

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NH

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The villain is a weak and loose. His line on this hand shows significant strength. If the min raise preflop isn't a play villain has been making his range is going to be very small.

Villain's thought process is going to be along the lines of "I have AA. I always lose with AA, but I know I should bet. I KNOW!!! I'll just min raise." Villain followed that up by CHECK RAISING you on the flop. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the first time villain had check raised anyone today.

His range is QQ+ with a rare JJ, 6x and bluff. Unless you have some kind of read you're not telling us about you should fold.

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Can't really disagree with you Recliner. I think you make some very good points.

As far as reads that were omitted go, I've certainly been isolating the guy relentlessly with pretty much ATC which I find usually has some very erratic effects.

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I'd need more than 3 numbers to make this call. Is minibetting preflop his standard? How does he play an overcard on the turn if an overcard drops? Will he stack off with 77,55-22 if you shove? I don't think he is bluffing, but at the same time i could see villain doing this with a low pocket pair. The thing is if you push he is calling with AA,KK,QQ,JJ,TT,99 but he might fold 55,44,33,22. You are right it is an equity calculation, but you need to consider his calling range and not his raising range. I'd need a read here that he'll stack off with any pocket pair before I do anything but fold here.