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buddha01 10-15-2007 10:16 AM

Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
Hi

I wanted to start a thread about moving from low stakes to high stakes if you have any thing to contubute about this concept and goal please post.

I have read of one player on the two plus two who managed to go from low stakes to high stakes, he balanced great knowledge with an agressive bankroll management plan, 17xbuy in, couple that with a prompt downward movement to lower stakes and he was golden inside of year.

This just is not the norm for %99 of people who play poker and I would say that at least 5% of the people who play really give it a darn good go with software and constant reviewing of their game.

To be playing 1/2 in Jan and 200/400 (1000/2000) by the following Jan is what every player dreams of and it is possible it would seem.

Please all comments about no limit hold'em and book recommendations appericated, I am currently reading through seven books, my current book is professional no limit vol 1.



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dlorc 10-15-2007 10:23 AM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
1. Playing a lot of hands.
2. Studying the game.
3. Taking it seriously.
4. Balanced lifestyle.
5. Self Control


Most players miss one or more of the above despite being good players.

jono 10-15-2007 10:33 AM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
a lot

Trivial 10-15-2007 10:34 AM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
stop reading the books and start putting in tons of hands, spend every waking hour thinking about poker strategy and every sleeping hour dreaming up nonsensical poker situations in a repeating pattern which will drive you insane as the cards flit frustratingly around your mind, learn to piss in a bottle and develop the ability to microwave ready meals without timing out on 19 tables while you dash from kitchen to pc, lose contact with all your acquaintances as you rack up massive amounts of dough while cockslapping any concept of a regular circadian rhythm and play while drunk a handful of times each month so you can take high stakes shots without fear...

Stake Monster 10-15-2007 10:46 AM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
1. Sleep with Brian Townsend
2. Profit

dragonystic 10-15-2007 10:51 AM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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Please all comments about no limit hold'em and book recommendations appericated

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lol, best level ever.

TheJokerIsWild 10-15-2007 10:53 AM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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stop reading the books and start putting in tons of hands, spend every waking hour thinking about poker strategy and every sleeping hour dreaming up nonsensical poker situations in a repeating pattern which will drive you insane as the cards flit frustratingly around your mind, learn to piss in a bottle and develop the ability to microwave ready meals without timing out on 19 tables while you dash from kitchen to pc, lose contact with all your acquaintances as you rack up massive amounts of dough while cockslapping any concept of a regular circadian rhythm and play while drunk a handful of times each month so you can take high stakes shots without fear...

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Well done.

Sponger. 10-15-2007 11:16 AM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
Many people? Haven't only like 9 people done this.

Also you won't, you're not good or lucky enough. Just quit now and be happy.

Nsight7 10-15-2007 11:18 AM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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1. Playing a lot of hands.
2. Studying the game.
3. Taking it seriously.
4. Balanced lifestyle.
5. Self Control


Most players miss one or more of the above despite being good players.

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For me 1) and 4) are issues. Can't really play that many hands because I do have to work and I haven't hit balla-stakes yet, as well as being in college still and having a family. #4 is more related to the fact that I already play a precarious balancing act with the rest of my life. Some weeks, poker must be a side-menu item.\

Still yet, I don't actually hold out any hope of being able to do this. I hope to eventually be good enough to beat $200nl, and that is it. I am half-way to my goal and that is more or less fine by me.

Wilpro 10-15-2007 11:28 AM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
If a million monkeys, write on a million typewriters eventually one of them writes something decent.

Similary for donkament pros, if a million people keep flipping $1 eventually someone has a $1,000,000.

The people who get to the top fast are probably better than most others, but it needs a hell of a lot of luck imo.

jmill2511 10-15-2007 11:49 AM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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stop reading the books and start putting in tons of hands, spend every waking hour thinking about poker strategy and every sleeping hour dreaming up nonsensical poker situations in a repeating pattern which will drive you insane as the cards flit frustratingly around your mind, learn to piss in a bottle and develop the ability to microwave ready meals without timing out on 19 tables while you dash from kitchen to pc, lose contact with all your acquaintances as you rack up massive amounts of dough while cockslapping any concept of a regular circadian rhythm and play while drunk a handful of times each month so you can take high stakes shots without fear...

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killsadie 10-15-2007 11:51 AM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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stop reading the books and start putting in tons of hands, spend every waking hour thinking about poker strategy and every sleeping hour dreaming up nonsensical poker situations in a repeating pattern which will drive you insane as the cards flit frustratingly around your mind, learn to piss in a bottle and develop the ability to microwave ready meals without timing out on 19 tables while you dash from kitchen to pc, lose contact with all your acquaintances as you rack up massive amounts of dough while cockslapping any concept of a regular circadian rhythm and play while drunk a handful of times each month so you can take high stakes shots without fear...

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omg... its so perfect.

10/10!

1o BoY 10-15-2007 12:00 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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stop reading the books and start putting in tons of hands, spend every waking hour thinking about poker strategy and every sleeping hour dreaming up nonsensical poker situations in a repeating pattern which will drive you insane as the cards flit frustratingly around your mind, learn to piss in a bottle and develop the ability to microwave ready meals without timing out on 19 tables while you dash from kitchen to pc, lose contact with all your acquaintances as you rack up massive amounts of dough while cockslapping any concept of a regular circadian rhythm and play while drunk a handful of times each month so you can take high stakes shots without fear...

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danjohncochane 10-15-2007 12:05 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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If a million monkeys, write on a million typewriters eventually one of them writes something decent.

Similary for donkament pros, if a million people keep flipping $1 eventually someone has a $1,000,000.




The people who get to the top fast are probably better than most others, but it needs a hell of a lot of luck imo.

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LOL thats not right.

Hattifnatt 10-15-2007 12:09 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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stop reading the books and start putting in tons of hands, spend every waking hour thinking about poker strategy and every sleeping hour dreaming up nonsensical poker situations in a repeating pattern which will drive you insane as the cards flit frustratingly around your mind, learn to piss in a bottle and develop the ability to microwave ready meals without timing out on 19 tables while you dash from kitchen to pc, lose contact with all your acquaintances as you rack up massive amounts of dough while cockslapping any concept of a regular circadian rhythm and play while drunk a handful of times each month so you can take high stakes shots without fear...

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what about nr 2?

buddha01 10-15-2007 01:24 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
I remember when I was reading about the study of guitar and this great master guitar player, he said there have been a lot of great players but after a few years they cant play any more becauase their playing position and hand movement was not right it was under strain and their hands, their muscles got damaged untill it was painfull to play.

What a shame that is.

Playing and pissing in a bottle, that does not sound good to me it sounds like a bad path.

If you took any one of the guys who did really well and made it, who's to say they would not do it again?

Has not that jesus.f gone from zero from a freeroll to 10k through good bank roll management?

The post with the bullet points is near the mark, I think its better to play and improve and get it right and take a few years then if you take a fresh smart kid with too many tft pannels and soft drinks.

Brain.T talked about it finally clicking into place, I think you have to pull yourself out of your bad game, even your bad way of living and bring it on, that coupled with good bankroll management has to be key.

... go ahead

mephisto 10-15-2007 02:18 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
Nice post buddha01.

keikiwai 10-15-2007 02:23 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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stop reading the books and start putting in tons of hands, spend every waking hour thinking about poker strategy and every sleeping hour dreaming up nonsensical poker situations in a repeating pattern which will drive you insane as the cards flit frustratingly around your mind, learn to piss in a bottle and develop the ability to microwave ready meals without timing out on 19 tables while you dash from kitchen to pc, lose contact with all your acquaintances as you rack up massive amounts of dough while cockslapping any concept of a regular circadian rhythm and play while drunk a handful of times each month so you can take high stakes shots without fear...

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LiveNow 10-15-2007 02:25 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
OP,
i love your signature!

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keikiwai 10-15-2007 02:26 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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OP,
i love your signature!

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hang on

where's that thread where everyone started using that signature?

maybe a year or so ago?

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LiveNow 10-15-2007 02:28 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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OP,
i love your signature!

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hang on

where's that thread where everyone started using that signature?

maybe a year or so ago?

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not sure, i'm new here

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carol-ann 10-15-2007 03:23 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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stop reading the books and start putting in tons of hands, spend every waking hour thinking about poker strategy and every sleeping hour dreaming up nonsensical poker situations in a repeating pattern which will drive you insane as the cards flit frustratingly around your mind, learn to piss in a bottle and develop the ability to microwave ready meals without timing out on 19 tables while you dash from kitchen to pc, lose contact with all your acquaintances as you rack up massive amounts of dough while cockslapping any concept of a regular circadian rhythm and play while drunk a handful of times each month so you can take high stakes shots without fear...

[/ QUOTE ]This is pretty good, though I fail at microwaving foods.

OP - you should start at 100/200 instead and work your way down to 2/1. That way you also get to play all those limits but it's a lot easier to do.

jfish 10-15-2007 04:08 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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stop reading the books and start putting in tons of hands, spend every waking hour thinking about poker strategy and every sleeping hour dreaming up nonsensical poker situations in a repeating pattern which will drive you insane as the cards flit frustratingly around your mind, learn to piss in a bottle and develop the ability to microwave ready meals without timing out on 19 tables while you dash from kitchen to pc, lose contact with all your acquaintances as you rack up massive amounts of dough while cockslapping any concept of a regular circadian rhythm and play while drunk a handful of times each month so you can take high stakes shots without fear...

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deadfromsuckouts 10-15-2007 04:28 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
I do not play holdem No-Limit in cash games. I prefer limit. But I do love playing No-Limit sit and gos, or multi-table tourneys. I found the comment on Brian Townsend to be interesting. I am probably big time paraphrasing here, but after he found Cardrunners, poker made sense and he went on to crush. This Is my reccomendation to you, go to Cardrunners, I will someday.

catcher193 10-15-2007 04:42 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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stop reading the books and start putting in tons of hands, spend every waking hour thinking about poker strategy and every sleeping hour dreaming up nonsensical poker situations in a repeating pattern which will drive you insane as the cards flit frustratingly around your mind, learn to piss in a bottle and develop the ability to microwave ready meals without timing out on 19 tables while you dash from kitchen to pc, lose contact with all your acquaintances as you rack up massive amounts of dough while cockslapping any concept of a regular circadian rhythm and play while drunk a handful of times each month so you can take high stakes shots without fear...

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so redicoulously fitting I don't even know what to think LOLOLOLOLOLOL>

deadfromsuckouts 10-15-2007 04:53 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
Going back to dlorc, can I win doing 40% of your program?

deadfromsuckouts 10-15-2007 05:00 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
Well he's probably right, gotta play more hands, now.

dlorc 10-15-2007 05:01 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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Going back to dlorc, can I win doing 40% of your program?

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You need at least 60% to pass.

czGLoRy 10-15-2007 05:02 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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] and develop the ability to microwave ready meals without timing out on 19 tables while you dash from kitchen to pc

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I CAN DO THAT, ITS CALLED FULL TILT SHORTCUTS, AUTO TIME BANK FTW

cakewalk 10-15-2007 05:29 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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stop reading the books and start putting in tons of hands, spend every waking hour thinking about poker strategy and every sleeping hour dreaming up nonsensical poker situations in a repeating pattern which will drive you insane as the cards flit frustratingly around your mind, learn to piss in a bottle and develop the ability to microwave ready meals without timing out on 19 tables while you dash from kitchen to pc, lose contact with all your acquaintances as you rack up massive amounts of dough while cockslapping any concept of a regular circadian rhythm and play while drunk a handful of times each month so you can take high stakes shots without fear...

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Boise123 10-15-2007 05:32 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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I would say that at least 5% of the people who play really give it a darn good go with software and constant reviewing of their game.
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Do you really think that as high as 5% of players are that dedicated?

ikestoys 10-15-2007 05:34 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
if high stakes is defined the same way as it is here (10/20+), then quite a few people do it... although nowhere near 5% of ppl who work hard and effectively on their game

kickpushcoast 10-15-2007 05:37 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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stop reading the books and start putting in tons of hands, spend every waking hour thinking about poker strategy and every sleeping hour dreaming up nonsensical poker situations in a repeating pattern which will drive you insane as the cards flit frustratingly around your mind, learn to piss in a bottle and develop the ability to microwave ready meals without timing out on 19 tables while you dash from kitchen to pc, lose contact with all your acquaintances as you rack up massive amounts of dough while cockslapping any concept of a regular circadian rhythm and play while drunk a handful of times each month so you can take high stakes shots without fear...

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this is pure poetry

freecard4all 10-15-2007 06:02 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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putting in ... every sleeping hour dreaming up nonsensical poker situations in a repeating pattern which will drive you insane as the cards flit frustratingly around your mind,

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duh, never more. For me this phase is over.

I don't care how much I lose because of not dreaming about poker ... but my dreams about big knockers, nice assess and randy girls all around ... are a lot better than the [censored] "NOOOO I HAVE MIS CLICKED FOR ALL MY STACK !!!" dreams.

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freecard4all 10-15-2007 06:02 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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4. Balanced lifestyle.

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Where can I get it? I tried the local store but no success.

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5. Self Control

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Where can I get it? I tried the local store but no success.

keikiwai 10-15-2007 06:04 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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4. Balanced lifestyle.

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Where can I get it? I tried the local store but no success.

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5. Self Control

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Where can I get it? I tried the local store but no success.

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same place you can buy a razor sharp wit

GSykes 10-15-2007 06:06 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
WHERE CAN I SEE SIGNARUES

rothko 10-15-2007 06:15 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
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Christophers 10-15-2007 06:20 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
I started at 25nl with $500 almost exactly a year ago, playing 25/50 and 50/100 pretty well rolled now. Never played more than 30k hands in a month either.

NedForrest 10-15-2007 06:30 PM

Re: Many people go from low stakes to high stakes inside 1-3 years?
 
i went from 0.05c/0.10c limit to 10/20 limit in 4 months online and then 30/60 to 200/400 live in 8 months. so about a year. played a lot though (250k hands my last 2 months or so online).


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