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luegofuego 10-12-2007 05:41 PM

boring deep stack question
 
party 10/20, stacks $3,653

UTG (TAG reg, very very aggressive postflop and capable of big moves) raises to $70, i call A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] OTB.

flop is 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], UTG bets $120, i call.

turn is A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], UTG bets $320, i make it $1,160, he shoves, about $2,300 for m to call. snap it?

jfish 10-12-2007 05:43 PM

Re: boring deep stack question
 
faster than snap

KRANTZ 10-12-2007 05:46 PM

Re: boring deep stack question
 
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faster than snap

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greg nice 10-12-2007 05:49 PM

Re: boring deep stack question
 
you shouldnt be raising if not intending to snapcall, no?

EC10 10-12-2007 05:52 PM

Re: boring deep stack question
 
cmon..........really now.

BalugaWhale 10-12-2007 05:55 PM

Re: boring deep stack question
 
the worst hand he can have here is 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] unless there is some sick history.

stephenNUTS 10-12-2007 07:12 PM

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cmon..........really now.

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Really WTF?
Were you going to fold?

This is just silly already,with some of these posted questions, that they obviously must know the answers to already.

jessica1994 10-12-2007 10:45 PM

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the worst hand he can have here is 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] unless there is some sick history.

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worst as in has the least equity vs. A7? Wouldn't that mean that villian either has 56s or OP crushed?

HeheOkok 10-12-2007 10:52 PM

Re: boring deep stack question
 
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the worst hand he can have here is 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] unless there is some sick history.

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so what do you expect him to do with A2/A4? AK? obviously it would be interesting to know what kind of image OP has, how the game has been running, history etc etc..

however, I'm almost always raising this turn and I'm always stacking of when I raise.

mwalsh2020 10-13-2007 03:29 AM

Re: boring deep stack question
 
triple fist pump light speed snap call

Xaston 10-13-2007 03:45 AM

Re: boring deep stack question
 
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triple fist pump light speed

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lol

luegofuego 10-13-2007 07:20 AM

Re: boring deep stack question
 
alright, told ya it was boring in the title atleast.

i just wanted some comments on what villains range might be here since i was villain and stuff. i was bluffing ofcourse. complete air. K:hearT:J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. pretty much everyone i talked to agreed that it was a pretty spewy play. i guess it would have been more interesting if i doctored the hand and gave him A4 or something like that.

at the time i thought villains range was pretty polarized to 56 etc/made hands turned bluffs since i def thought he would raise a set on the flop like always (dynamics were pretty aggro at the time) and i thought he would bluffraise the ace a great deal of the time since i was playing so aggressive, firing at any scare card all the time.

i think i would have liked my play with spades or 65, but drawing dead whenever called is pretty disastrous.

wtf5 10-13-2007 07:38 AM

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drawing dead whenever called is pretty disastrous.

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O RRY?

Requin 10-13-2007 12:26 PM

Re: boring deep stack question
 
Ok I'll admit I don't get this at all. Why is this a snapcall? Because we think he's shoving worse for value? Not enough back and he's shoving any hand he's continuing with here? Our line looks bluffy? Certainly the last can't be enough reason to SNAPcall, I don't think there's anything wrong with value raising this but folding to a shove, the call in that case would be player/history dependent. I'd appreciate it if someone wants to explain here or shoot me a PM.

Btch_Im_Cuter 10-13-2007 12:41 PM

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Ok I'll admit I don't get this at all. Why is this a snapcall? Because we think he's shoving worse for value? Not enough back and he's shoving any hand he's continuing with here? Our line looks bluffy? Certainly the last can't be enough reason to SNAPcall, I don't think there's anything wrong with value raising this but folding to a shove, the call in that case would be player/history dependent. I'd appreciate it if someone wants to explain here or shoot me a PM.

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If "Villain" had a monster, he probably wouldn't bet-3betAI. Give a little more rope. Combine that with the fact that there are bloody few monsters on this board, and he's very likely to be getting out of line.

luegofuego 10-13-2007 12:55 PM

Re: boring deep stack question
 
lol wtf u dont think i shove pawket rawkets here? thats insane

Btch_Im_Cuter 10-13-2007 02:38 PM

Re: boring deep stack question
 
So Villain's representing one (1) combo ftw?

BalugaWhale 10-13-2007 03:08 PM

Re: boring deep stack question
 
luego-
i was under the impression that villain frequently would smoothcall a set on the flop

my b


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