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Seven_of_Cups 10-12-2007 04:45 PM

How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
The villain here I have tagged as a fish. I put the raise in on 3rd street hoping to knock out the bring in and my strategy was to play it fast to loose any other stragglers (unless they developed a scary board). How would any of you play this hand?

7 Card Stud High ($0.25/$0.50), Ante $0.05, Bring-In $0.10 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.20 SB)

Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___completes
Seat 3: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 5: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (4.60 SB)

Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 4: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls

5th Street - (3.30 BB)

Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 5: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls

6th Street - (5.30 BB)

Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 5: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls

River - (7.30 BB)

Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks
Seat 5: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___checks

Total pot: (7.30 BB - $3.65)

electrical 10-12-2007 04:54 PM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
I would bet the river for value against a known sucker. Against a tricky or good player I would check behind. Your hand is pretty obvious, so either he whiffed or he's a dumbass, and I like to let dumbasses call bets.

Nina 10-13-2007 06:32 AM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
I know players who raise pf with draws, buried small pairs with a scare card etc. Villain prolly thinks you did this and continue betting with two small pairs or just sixes. OR he's a fish. OR he has a higher buried pair. OR he hit trips. Nevertheless betting river is EV+ as the previous poster also stated.

Andy B 10-13-2007 10:17 AM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
What Steve said.

Brad1970 10-13-2007 11:03 AM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
What Andy said.

FishSticks 10-13-2007 12:07 PM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
steve = electrical (not nina lol) I assume?

Anyways, this looks standard to me up until the river. This guy will absolutely call with a worse two pair, and tbh I wouldn't be surprised if he has some sort of busted straight draw and called the river anyways with just his nines. There's value there, and this guy is so likely to just come out betting if he hit his hand, so I don't think there's a ton of downside to betting. I wouldn't be that shocked if he called with *just* his nines, either.

Andy B 10-13-2007 12:22 PM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
electrical = Steve Albini, proprietor of Electrical Audio. He's moderately famous as a musician and recording engineer:

link
wikipedia

Ask him about Urge Overkill some time.

FishSticks 10-13-2007 02:48 PM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
well HOT DAMN that is some [censored] right there

I guess not everyone on 2p2 is a snarky college student

Nina 10-13-2007 06:22 PM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
[ QUOTE ]
steve = electrical (not nina lol) I assume?

Anyways, this looks standard to me up until the river. This guy will absolutely call with a worse two pair, and tbh I wouldn't be surprised if he has some sort of busted straight draw and called the river anyways with just his nines. There's value there, and this guy is so likely to just come out betting if he hit his hand, so I don't think there's a ton of downside to betting. I wouldn't be that shocked if he called with *just* his nines, either.

[/ QUOTE ]

No, I'm not Steve. I have boobs. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

roggles 10-13-2007 06:25 PM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
So do I [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

edit: Sorry for LC. I would check behind on 7th probably. I think his board is a little bit scary. Taking a c/r line on the river does not necessitate a good player. Fish use this move liberally too.

FishSticks 10-13-2007 08:36 PM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
lol you girls sound like you're ashamed of them!

electrical 10-14-2007 03:07 AM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
I'm going to start using "roggles" as a euphemism for boobs in conversation. It may replace "emersons."

Andy B 10-14-2007 11:31 AM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
Pics?

roggles 10-14-2007 11:33 AM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
The joke is that I am not a girl, you nerds

Andy B 10-14-2007 11:35 AM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
I actually kinda figured that. I think that makes "roggles" funnier.

RustyBrooks 10-14-2007 01:32 PM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
[ QUOTE ]
electrical = Steve Albini, proprietor of Electrical Audio. He's moderately famous as a musician and recording engineer:

link
wikipedia

Ask him about Urge Overkill some time.

[/ QUOTE ]

Holy Crap, Steve Albini is my hero. Seriously.

Andy B 10-14-2007 02:03 PM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
You probably missed this thread which started out great and got derailed by non-gambling douche-bags who got wind of it on some lame-indie-band-fan-boy site.

FishSticks 10-14-2007 02:08 PM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Pics?

[/ QUOTE ]

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c...n234/temp1.jpg

Andy B 10-14-2007 02:18 PM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
Awesome.

RustyBrooks 10-14-2007 02:58 PM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
[ QUOTE ]
You probably missed this thread which started out great and got derailed by non-gambling douche-bags who got wind of it on some lame-indie-band-fan-boy site.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't read BBV4Life. I don't even really read BBV any more. A guy only has so much time.

ChipsAhoya 10-14-2007 06:40 PM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
[ QUOTE ]
well HOT DAMN that is some [censored] right there

I guess not everyone on 2p2 is a snarky college student

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, some of us just graduated... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

-ChipsAhoya

nef 10-15-2007 12:12 AM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
electrical = Steve Albini, proprietor of Electrical Audio. He's moderately famous as a musician and recording engineer:

link
wikipedia

Ask him about Urge Overkill some time.

[/ QUOTE ]

Holy Crap, Steve Albini is my hero. Seriously.

[/ QUOTE ]

Cool. I saw Shellac, Fugazi and Blonde Redhead way back when at the Congress Theatre ('97 or '98). I guess when you get this many people together for one common interest you will come across people who share another interest.

For the OP I think you should value bet. You can expect to get called by a smaller two pair often. The straight is not so likley because he would often come out betting hoping to not miss a bet, also 7's are somewhat dead. Same is true for an unlikely flush as far as coming out betting. He does have a relatively coordinated board and may fear you'll check behind when he has a big hand.

Nina 10-15-2007 02:16 PM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Pics?

[/ QUOTE ]

No, but mine are sweeter than Rog's [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

RustyBrooks 10-15-2007 02:21 PM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
I play with a guy named BUSTYOU and I always parse it as "BUSTY OU" and I'm like "all right, big breasted oklahoma girl". I also play with a guy named "ImTheMouth" which I always read as "InTheMouth".

I also play with BoyPlunger and I have seen on UB, 3InputGal. Classy!

Nina 10-15-2007 02:41 PM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
I'm BigBoobz at one site [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

RustyBrooks 10-15-2007 03:09 PM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
That probably contributes to your win rate.

I'm only sort of joking.

FishSticks 10-16-2007 02:02 PM

Re: How would you play this? (Stud high)
 
[ QUOTE ]
3InputGal. Classy!

[/ QUOTE ]

lol


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