Any updates on Tommy Angelo\'s book?
 

I haven't heard it discssed recently and was just wondering if it should be my next purchase.

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i emailed tommy and he said the end of november

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I am also in contact with Tommy. Should be getting cover art and descriptive text in the next week or two. Once I am assured we are under 30 days from arrival it will go up for pre-release ordering.

Mike

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Last I heard Tommy was trying to keep this book in limited quantity. Is this still true?

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I just heard that he had decided to have it printed in the UK, and as a result it won't reach the US market for at least another 6 to 9 months.

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i emailed tommy today and he said november, strange

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He was joking. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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I just heard that he had decided to have it printed in the UK, and as a result it won't reach the US market for at least another 6 to 9 months.

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That would be fine as long as he isn't stupid enough to come in here and say the reason we have to wait so long is because he saved money.

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I just heard that he had decided to have it printed in the UK, and as a result it won't reach the US market for at least another 6 to 9 months.

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That would be fine as long as he isn't stupid enough to come in here and say the reason we have to wait so long is because he saved money.

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If that was the reason, would you rather he lied?

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I haven't heard it discssed recently and was just wondering if it should be my next purchase.


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I just heard that he had decided to have it printed in the UK, and as a result it won't reach the US market for at least another 6 to 9 months.


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That would be fine as long as he isn't stupid enough to come in here and say the reason we have to wait so long is because he saved money.


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If that was the reason, would you rather he lied?

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LDO, but it ain't lying it is witholding information that the buyer doesn't really need. This was clearly a situation that required them to be, what I refer to as "suitably vauge". "Unavoidable delays" or "Circumstances caused a delay" would have been plenty of information and wouldn't have bothered me at all.

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I haven't heard it discssed recently and was just wondering if it should be my next purchase.


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I just heard that he had decided to have it printed in the UK, and as a result it won't reach the US market for at least another 6 to 9 months.


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That would be fine as long as he isn't stupid enough to come in here and say the reason we have to wait so long is because he saved money.


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If that was the reason, would you rather he lied?

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LDO, but it ain't lying it is witholding information that the buyer doesn't really need. This was clearly a situation that required them to be, what I refer to as "suitably vauge". "Unavoidable delays" or "Circumstances caused a delay" would have been plenty of information and wouldn't have bothered me at all.

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ME: "Hey honey. Did you go out last night?"

GIRLFRIEND: "Yeah. Had a great time, too."

ME: "Really, where'd you go?"

GF: "The Bunny Ranch."

ME: "The Bunny Ranch?"

GF: "Yeah."

ME: "But isn't that a brothel?"

GF: "Yeah."

ME: "So you went as a customer, or were you... auditioning?"

"GF: "Sweetheart, don't ask questions unless you really want to know the answer."

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It's at the publisher's. Probably another six weeks or so and it will be out. Well worth the wait.

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Will it be on Amazon?

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Either order it from this site (ConJelCo, actually) or from Poker Mike.

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Nov 18 or 20, I forget. Probably before Christmas. Or New Year's. Maybe Chinese New Year.

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that's okay with me, Barry T's new limit book is going to require a lot of study and practice so later is better for me in this situation.

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This month's Two Plus Two Internet Magazine has an excerpt from Tommy's book.

Book Excerpt from "Elements of Poker": Fastrolling

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Ithought this book would be great, but
To be honest the excerpt in the 2+2 mag does not look very iteresting

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Ithought this book would be great, but
To be honest the excerpt in the 2+2 mag does not look very interesting

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question - what did you expect from the book? i ask because the quote was classic Tommy, it was exactly what I expect and would want to read. His specialty is in how to mentally approach the game and the adjustments that need to be made to be "one with the table".

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Ok, Maybe it did not speak to me as I am mainly online player and it just looked to me like an article on B&M etiquette

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Either order it from this site (ConJelCo, actually) or from Poker Mike.

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Are you saying it won't be on Amazon?

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Are you saying it won't be on Amazon?

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it will be on Amazon.

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Either order it from this site (ConJelCo, actually) or from Poker Mike.

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Are you saying it won't be on Amazon?

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Amazon Sucks but in regard to new releases, they really suck.

Mike at professional poker.com and/or Conjelco is/are the bomb.

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Either order it from this site (ConJelCo, actually) or from Poker Mike.

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Are you saying it won't be on Amazon?

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Amazon Sucks but in regard to new releases, they really suck.

Mike at professional poker.com and/or Conjelco is/are the bomb.

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Your opinion is always welcome and encouraged. I find Mike's dirt-cheap US dollar prices to be balanced by prohibitive shipping costs, so I go with my trusted current supplier.

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FYI - There are 3-4 shipping options. Be sure to click the pull-down to see them all on the checkout screen. Single book orders that select first class international (the least expensive option) will ship upgraded in a flat rate priority envelope. This applies to the standard 2+2 sized books.
Mike

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Ithought this book would be great, but
To be honest the excerpt in the 2+2 mag does not look very interesting

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question - what did you expect from the book? i ask because the quote was classic Tommy, it was exactly what I expect and would want to read. His specialty is in how to mentally approach the game and the adjustments that need to be made to be "one with the table".

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I am a big fan of Tommy Angelo and agree with pokerpun's assessment; it was pretty unimpressive and not useful at all to an online player.

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What can one say to that? A lot, but it would be hard to be polite.

If you understand the thought process behind what he's saying, it will help you become a better player (person?). If you don't, then stick to online. Your life will be easier.

CJ

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Ithought this book would be great, but
To be honest the excerpt in the 2+2 mag does not look very interesting

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question - what did you expect from the book? i ask because the quote was classic Tommy, it was exactly what I expect and would want to read. His specialty is in how to mentally approach the game and the adjustments that need to be made to be "one with the table".

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I am a big fan of Tommy Angelo and agree with pokerpun's assessment; it was pretty unimpressive and not useful at all to an online player.

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Tommy's book looks like it will be closer in concept to the psychological components of Barry G's book than a traditional strategy book, but thats fine since thought process is what separates an expert player from world class players. I know a lot of very good players on 2+2 in real life because I travel a lot for business and live in Vegas, the #1 "leak" in the best of this bunch's game is not strategic; its how they approach the game where the mistakes are commonly made.

I think topics such as Quitting, Anticipation, Fears, Moving Up, Entitlement and Self-Perpetuating Tiltlessness are challenges for all players yet its one of the least addressed components of a players game. I doubt very much anyone will find a magic bullet in Tommy's work, but you will find some self improvement - if (and only if) thats what your looking for.

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What can one say to that? A lot, but it would be hard to be polite.

If you understand the thought process behind what he's saying, it will help you become a better player (person?). If you don't, then stick to online. Your life will be easier.

CJ

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I respect Tommy's work, I've read his website before and I'm looking forward to buying the book. I'm looking forward to reading his more general conceptual stuff as well. I'm just saying I do not think that particular chapter provided a lot of useful insight to someone like me who plays 99% online. I wish he published one of the chapters TT mentioned ("Quitting, Anticipation, Fears, Moving Up, Entitlement and Self-Perpetuating Tiltlessness") which all sound very applicable and interesting.

re: TT: Barry's book is one of my favorites as well even with a lot of stuff that isn't directly applicable to a player like me (i.e. describing a lot of casino-centered stuff like a paragraph on what a floor man does).

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Either order it from this site (ConJelCo, actually) or from Poker Mike.

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Are you saying it won't be on Amazon?

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Amazon Sucks but in regard to new releases, they really suck.

Mike at professional poker.com and/or Conjelco is/are the bomb.

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If you have somebody you like, then by all means stick with them. I don't have a decent bookstore nearby so I can almost buy two books from Mike for what it costs me to go pick it up and I get the new releases fast, I mean lightening fast. If I remember correctly, he drove over immediately as it was available, picked up my copy of ALHS (granted he probably picked up books for others also) and mailed it the same day. I have to have a lot of love for someone that will do that.

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Cover has been released:
http://www.tommyangelo.com/images/EOP_front_cover.jpg

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Oooh abstract.

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Oooh abstract.

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Are you talking about Tommy or the cover?

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Oooh abstract.

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Are you talking about Tommy or the cover?

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I'm certain one was designed to reflect the other. Or vice versa.

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New update on his website is pretty cool.

hehe

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I'm confused already.

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Cover has been released:
http://www.tommyangelo.com/images/EOP_front_cover.jpg

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Wow a poker book cover that does not look like it's drawn by a 12 year old and is not tacky, what is going on here?