FT100 Weird bloated pot
 

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BB: $24.85
UTG: $96.50
MP: $444.95
CO: $100
Hero (BTN): $98.50
SB: $465.25

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, SB calls $3, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($10.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $1</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $13.50</font>, Hero calls $13.50, SB calls $12.50

Turn: ($51) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $1</font>, BB calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $17</font>, SB calls $16, BB calls $6.85 and is All-In

River: ($92.85) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 is All-In)
SB checks, Hero ..?


The shorty is a 13/7/2.1/302 nit. Other guy is unknown.

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funny pot.
SB seems irrational and probably calls with 8x

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River: ($92.85) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 is All-In)
SB checks, Hero ..bets $1

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check seems the safest...you have about 65 left on the river...so if you bet ur gonna have to bet it all on the river into a pot of 90...SB's play seem irrational and foolish but since you have little info on the SB a value river bet is kinda thin

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I'd just call turn, seen as i'd probably check it without the bet.

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I'd probably check and be glad he didn't put you to the test with a big bet. Think it's bit too thin to value bet v 8x here.

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Pretty easy river push.

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I would push. Sb has a busted draw and bb has an eight.

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Pretty easy river push.

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I would push. Sb has a busted draw and bb has an eight.

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If SB has a busted draw, why bother pushing? He's not calling anything.

Check behind on river. There's only $20 in the side pot, and you're WA/WB (likely a busted str8 draw). Why give him an opportunity to c/r bluff you out of both the main and side pot?

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If SB has a busted draw, why bother pushing? He's not calling anything.

Check behind on river. There's only $20 in the side pot, and you're WA/WB (likely a busted str8 draw). Why give him an opportunity to c/r bluff you out of both the main and side pot?

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Didn't see bb was all in. Well sb could have been blocking flop and turn with an eight too. We're just basically never beat here so push.

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I would push. Sb has a busted draw and bb has an eight.

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If SB has a busted draw, why bother pushing? He's not calling anything.

Check behind on river. There's only $20 in the side pot, and you're WA/WB (likely a busted str8 draw). Why give him an opportunity to c/r bluff you out of both the main and side pot?

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people play bad and he is an unknown. he will call with low PP and 8x as well as TT, JJ. I think you have enough EV for this push.

He cannot cr bluff you if you push....

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raise or fold the flop, get it heads up versus the shorty.

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SB line screams of a str8 draw to me with those silly $1 bets. Id have preferred a 3 bet on flop or bigger raise on turn. River decision depends on my reads, if i have none i guess i err on the side of caution and check. Too much to lose for too little chance of a call with less.

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I would push. Sb has a busted draw and bb has an eight.

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If SB has a busted draw, why bother pushing? He's not calling anything.

Check behind on river. There's only $20 in the side pot, and you're WA/WB (likely a busted str8 draw). Why give him an opportunity to c/r bluff you out of both the main and side pot?

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people play bad and he is an unknown. he will call with low PP and 8x as well as TT, JJ. I think you have enough EV for this push.

He cannot cr bluff you if you push....

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The chances of some unknown at 100NL picking up on your weak river bet and making an insane river c/r with a busted straight draw here is close to 0. Why not bet between 15-25 and actually get called by hands we beat instead of pushing out 8x and low pp's with a shove?

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The chances of some unknown at 100NL picking up on your weak river bet and making an insane river c/r with a busted straight draw here is close to 0. Why not bet between 15-25 and actually get called by hands we beat instead of pushing out 8x and low pp's with a shove?

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The fact that villain twice made a min donk bet and called a raise probably means he isn't folding an eight if he has one.

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We're HOPING he has an 8 here though, and I feel like that's the only hand he has that MIGHT call a shove but probably won't. We have no idea if this guy is a retarded slowplayer either. I've seen donks take similar lines w/ sets or like a 7 here - not the most likely situation but definitely not something you should rule out completely. A small v bet on the river actually gets value from 33-66 and will for sure get a call from an 8 whereas a push u really will probably fold him out.

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Ok, I check behind an SB shows 64.

I guess I could bet half of what I have left here, but at the time it felt too thin. It's also particularly hard when you have no read. And after results I obviously have an extra read so it's hard to stay impartial.

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whats the deal with turn raise sizing. Well By the river I'd say you have the best hand like 90% of the time and these players appear to suck so you might get called bet like 55.