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shaniac 10-11-2007 12:14 AM

Kitchen Nightmares (show on Fox)
 
Anyone watching this? The premise is that Chef Gordon Ramsey infiltrates some shithole East Coast restaurant that is failing for one or a variety of reasons. He observes the mayhem, the grossness, and the incompetence, then he rips everyone involved a new [censored] and spends the next week trying to reform the restaurant. Many outbursts and confrontations ensue. It's quite entertaining-yet-depressing to see inside these horror-show restaurants and pretty gratifying to see Ramsey in action, criticizing and dissecting every problem along the way.

guids 10-11-2007 12:19 AM

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the american version really really really sucks. I watched last weeks, and he calls the restaurant manager fat, just to provoke him, no doubt the producers told him to do that, and it showed very little of what he does to get the restaurants back into shape. The version that they show on BBC america is about twenty times better, and actually teaches you some stuff in the process, and is pretty funny. You actually feel the fact that ramsey cares about what he is doing in that version, the american ver he just rips on people for the camera/producers.

black_drake 10-11-2007 12:21 AM

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Find the UK version, it's alot better than this Drama crap. He actually shows/teaches about running a restaurant.

Watch the US version if you just want to watch him rip into people. (Which is still highly entertaining).

Watch the UK version for actual problems and solutions. Gordon himself narrates each episode, you won't be disappointed!

Then watch Boiling Point, a documentary style show, of him running his own Michelin Starred restaurant and you'll realize, he's really that hardcore and passionate.

shaniac 10-11-2007 12:21 AM

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Does it go by the same name? My DVR doesn't have a listing for any show by that name on BBC-A, so it seems I'm stuck with this version for the time being.

guids 10-11-2007 12:22 AM

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Does it go by the same name? My DVR doesn't have a listing for any show by that name on BBC-A, so it seems I'm stuck with this version for the time being.

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BBC-A - Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares

airs on thursday nights usually, and re-runs are on all the time.

black_drake 10-11-2007 12:24 AM

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Does it go by the same name? My DVR doesn't have a listing for any show by that name on BBC-A, so it seems I'm stuck with this version for the time being.

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Just search it on you tube or other tv links if you don't have it on cable. However, it's usually titled under the episode name (which is the restaurant he's fixing up) so you can just google the episode list and search it from there.

O Fen�meno 10-11-2007 12:26 AM

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its on everyday at 5pm on bbcamerica, he really puts all he can into the restaurant

shaniac 10-11-2007 12:28 AM

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Found it, thanks. Will check out the original version.

guids 10-11-2007 01:05 AM

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Im watching the show that was on tonight right now, its not as bad as the last episode was, its a little more like the bbc version. I want to punch both the guys in the kitchen.

EscapePlan9 10-11-2007 01:37 AM

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I like both the UK and US versions in their own ways. The US version is more dramatic and less about the food, but it's a stretch to say it tells nothing about the food. I'm also a fan of Ramsay ripping into people [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

daryn 10-11-2007 01:59 AM

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i saw the first 5 minutes as i was getting ready to go out somewhere and decided to tivo it. awesome..

Glo 10-11-2007 02:10 AM

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Kinda funny, tonight's episode was held in a resturaunt I've eaten at. I ate there about 4-5 years ago, before it went down the craphole. The food wasn't memorable considering I don't remember eating there and had to be reminded by my hubby exactly when it was that we dined there.

I love how all these places are on LI. I can't wait to see if I know the next crappy resturaunt. I do recall a fav Indian place of mine going down in April of this year for a little and they did open up with a new name.. I wonder...

kioshk 10-11-2007 05:30 AM

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I've been watching the BBC Kitchen Nightmare shows on Youtube since I found out about them here, and they are incredible. This is great tv. Gordon Ramsay isn't just a good guy; he's patient, instructive, even inspirational. I can't believe it's the same guy from the American shows.

Hell's Kitchen was crappy, and it made Ramsay look like a buffoon. The American Kitchen Nightmares is barely better. Everything about it is amateurish, especially the oppressive background music. Why do American tv networks and producers have such contempt for us that they would take a great show and ruin it (twice)in 12 different ways?

Gordon Ramsay is either selling out or his agent misplaced him on network tv. I'm sure the right cable show could show him off properly.

dlk9s 10-11-2007 08:16 AM

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I've enjoyed Kitchen Nightmares for the train wreck appeal.

One funny thing I noticed is that when they fixed Dillon's Restaurant, one thing they did was give the place a nice, new awning. Unfortunately, they spelled the name of the restaurant "Dillion's." Oops.

Bulldog 10-11-2007 09:19 AM

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Fox' KN : BBC's KN :: Give a man a fish : Teach a man to fish

Perplexity 10-11-2007 09:56 AM

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This show is so ridiculously obviously painfully faked.

I like this review:

http://laist.com/2007/10/10/ramsays_america.php

Yeti 10-11-2007 10:02 AM

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the english version is great, so many great episodes and situations. like the dog [censored] on the kitchen floor in one ep. or the head chef who couldn't cook anything - 'i can't believe you can't make a [censored] omelette!'

excellent.

chicken10der 10-11-2007 10:19 AM

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i've seen both versions of the show and enjoyed them both for the different reasons black_drake originally posted. the us show has been good so far with the exception of last week's ep, thought it was pretty boring.

the soul shack ep from the uk series is the best

O Fen�meno 10-11-2007 10:24 AM

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in the british version every single thing he says [censored] me

Yeti 10-11-2007 10:40 AM

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BTW,

Every ep of the English show goes as follows :

- Gordon turns up to restaurant and displays his disgust using a plethora of swear words.
- Gordon declares that the menu must be simplified and that the restaurant must go 'back to basics'. If it is on the sea, fresh fish will feature prominently on the menu. If it is in the countryside, potatoes.
- Cue shot of a topless Gordon putting on his chef outfit.
- Gordon displays how to make the dishes then marches around town like a bellend publicising the restaurant.
- The staff are shoddy but they pull together and the evening is a decent success.
- Gordon is happy with the evening but maintains there is a long way to go. He pulls on his leather jacket and skulks off into the night.

O Fen�meno 10-11-2007 10:42 AM

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yeti,
dont forget the part where he says simplify the menu and only use fresh local produce. Also he likes to find the worst employee and berate them until they quit or improve

Yeti 10-11-2007 10:53 AM

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Dude, point 2. The first 3 appear without fail every episode, spotting the third is the highlight of the show for me. Sometimes he will grace us with two topless shots an episode.

luckyjimm 10-11-2007 10:57 AM

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BTW,

Every ep of the English show goes as follows :

- Gordon turns up to restaurant and displays his disgust using a plethora of swear words.
- Gordon declares that the menu must be simplified and that the restaurant must go 'back to basics'. If it is on the sea, fresh fish will feature prominently on the menu. If it is in the countryside, potatoes.
- Cue shot of a topless Gordon putting on his chef outfit.
- Gordon displays how to make the dishes then marches around town like a bellend publicising the restaurant.
- The staff are shoddy but they pull together and the evening is a decent success.
- Gordon is happy with the evening but maintains there is a long way to go. He pulls on his leather jacket and skulks off into the night.

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- The head chef / one of the kitchen staff turns out to be a bitter, frustated bully, and/or alcoholic. Gordon persuades him to leave.

- Gordon discovers that the kid slicing the vegetables is actually super-talented, and makes him head chef.

- The restaurant lives happily ever after!

Yeti 10-11-2007 10:59 AM

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jimm,

Solid points one and two. Point 3 is just what THEY want you to think.

O Fen�meno 10-11-2007 11:09 AM

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jimm,
Gordon's favorite thing is to say this kid has potential in the restaurant industry. Im suprised he doestn steal more of those young kids for his restaurant

chicken10der 10-11-2007 11:10 AM

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jimm's point 3 is proven wrong in several of the 'revisited' episodes (which is just the same episode with a 5-10 minute segment at the end where he goes back a few months later to see everything is back to being [censored] usually)

yeti's points are dead on for every ep.

bwana devil 10-11-2007 11:20 AM

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re: living happily ever after.

the one at <font color="white">seascape </font> in <font color="white">islip,ny </font> was the only one ive seen. saw the last 1/2 of it. at the end the of the show they said the owners sold the place 5 months after the taping occurred. from what i could tell the owners were just in over their heads and didnt know how to manage properly.

Yeti 10-11-2007 11:24 AM

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O Fen�meno,

You know he has been known to steal some, right? Your use of 'more' may have implied that but I'm not sure.


bwana,

They have 'revisited' eps where he goes back 6 months later. A lot of the places aren't doing too great. A lot of the time they just ignore what he told them. Heh, idiots.

edit - ah, chicken mentioned the revisited ones already.

Dids 10-11-2007 11:34 AM

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I haven't seen the American one, I just decided that based on the British one and Fox's influence it would be pretty much what it sounds like it is.

The thing that's key about the UK version is that the chefs tends to be such damn ingrates you want Gordon to go off of them.

O Fen�meno 10-11-2007 11:42 AM

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Yeti,
I remember one episode he mentioned stealing a few of the sous chefs but other than that i dont remember it occurring.

Dids,
the American one is really rubbish i have seen a few on the internet and its more about yelling and drama than actual content. In the American one he also like buys a brand new kitchen and brings in new employees. Also he hires designers so it is much a makeover type show rather than inspiring the staff to find themselves or their previous skill.

bwana devil 10-11-2007 11:43 AM

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bwana,

They have 'revisited' eps where he goes back 6 months later. A lot of the places aren't doing too great. A lot of the time they just ignore what he told them. Heh, idiots.

edit - ah, chicken mentioned the revisited ones already.

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ah, gotcha. perhaps that's why they mentioned they were out of biz after 5 months and so people wouldnt expect a 'revisited' episode.

overall, the show was pretty good although not good enough for me to watch again. i felt bad for the family running the restaurant which is mostly why i watched. although i'm embarrassed to admit i watched 'hell's kitchen' last season. was my guilty pleasure show last year.

EscapePlan9 10-11-2007 11:57 AM

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I've seen all the Hell's Kitchens. Call me the "lowest common denominator" if you want, but I really dug the show. I know the emphasis of the show had little to do with the food and more to do with the characterizations, but what's the harm in liking that?

CORed 10-11-2007 04:50 PM

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the american version really really really sucks. I watched last weeks, and he calls the restaurant manager fat, just to provoke him, no doubt the producers told him to do that, and it showed very little of what he does to get the restaurants back into shape. The version that they show on BBC america is about twenty times better, and actually teaches you some stuff in the process, and is pretty funny. You actually feel the fact that ramsey cares about what he is doing in that version, the american ver he just rips on people for the camera/producers.

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That's interesting. The American version, and the show he was on last year called "Hell's Kitchen", which was a sort "Survivor" knockoff with chefs, makes Ramsey look like a complete jerk, whose idea of management is just to swear at people and belittle them. Maybe in real life he actually does know how to manage people.

guids 10-11-2007 04:53 PM

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the american version really really really sucks. I watched last weeks, and he calls the restaurant manager fat, just to provoke him, no doubt the producers told him to do that, and it showed very little of what he does to get the restaurants back into shape. The version that they show on BBC america is about twenty times better, and actually teaches you some stuff in the process, and is pretty funny. You actually feel the fact that ramsey cares about what he is doing in that version, the american ver he just rips on people for the camera/producers.

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That's interesting. The American version, and the show he was on last year called "Hell's Kitchen", which was a sort "Survivor" knockoff with chefs, makes Ramsey look like a complete jerk, whose idea of management is just to swear at people and belittle them. Maybe in real life he actually does know how to manage people.

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He def 100%, unequivocally knows how to manage people, he is one of the best in the world at it as it regards to kitchens/restaurants. Fox really did a good job at not showing this.


Has anyone seen Jean Baptiste, the maitre d at ramsey's main restaurant? that guys is the slickest, coolest guy on tv.

black_drake 10-11-2007 05:34 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
the american version really really really sucks. I watched last weeks, and he calls the restaurant manager fat, just to provoke him, no doubt the producers told him to do that, and it showed very little of what he does to get the restaurants back into shape. The version that they show on BBC america is about twenty times better, and actually teaches you some stuff in the process, and is pretty funny. You actually feel the fact that ramsey cares about what he is doing in that version, the american ver he just rips on people for the camera/producers.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's interesting. The American version, and the show he was on last year called "Hell's Kitchen", which was a sort "Survivor" knockoff with chefs, makes Ramsey look like a complete jerk, whose idea of management is just to swear at people and belittle them. Maybe in real life he actually does know how to manage people.

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He def 100%, unequivocally knows how to manage people, he is one of the best in the world at it as it regards to kitchens/restaurants. Fox really did a good job at not showing this.


Has anyone seen Jean Baptiste, the maitre d at ramsey's main restaurant? that guys is the slickest, coolest guy on tv.

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Yeah, when I first saw HK 3 years, I'd thought the same thing - what a Douche Bag, prolly knows next to nothing. Then after googling him, saw the [censored] ton of restaurants he owns, watching the UK versions - he knows his [censored] - no contest about that.

I saw Baptiste in one of the UK episodes...but don't remember the restaurant name... -_- Jean Philipe is sly too, he encourages customers to go up to Gordon in the shows, then you-know-what happens...lolz.

luckyjimm 10-11-2007 05:36 PM

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jimm's point 3 is proven wrong in several of the 'revisited' episodes (which is just the same episode with a 5-10 minute segment at the end where he goes back a few months later to see everything is back to being [censored] usually)

yeti's points are dead on for every ep.

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To be honest I only really had two points, the third was filler.

I should have said:

3 The restaurant lives happily ever after / goes bust the next week

Simon Diamond 10-13-2007 06:51 AM

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the english version is great, so many great episodes and situations. like the dog [censored] on the kitchen floor in one ep. or the head chef who couldn't cook anything - 'i can't believe you can't make a [censored] omelette!'

excellent.

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Tim Gray @ Bonaparte's - absolute legend and at the time that episode set a record for the most "f**ks" on a UK television programme. Might still stand. It's unintentional comedy at it's very best.

"He's only gone and given me a rancid scallop."

Yeti 10-13-2007 09:01 PM

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"He's only gone and given me a rancid scallop."

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i am incapable of reading this line without laughing. that is how good this show is.

FatalError 10-13-2007 11:43 PM

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Gordon Ramsey has found the most amazing and lucrative outlets for his ego ever. He has put himself in a position where absolutely nobody he encounters can say [censored] to him because he's basically their god.

whodaman 10-14-2007 04:59 AM

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i love both the uk version and us version of this show... although it has made me a little queezy about eating out again


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