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tweed_blazer 10-10-2007 08:06 PM

KK deep 5/10...6 max.
 
5/10 NL. villain has 1700. I cover.

utg raises to 35. i reraise with KK to 120.call. fold. fold. fold. Original raiser folds.

Qs 5d 3h.

i bet 210. villain goes all in for 1581.75.



I would say I had a TAG image. I had shown down strong hands (two sets) at showdown, but hadn't really gotten out of line at all. I believe he views me as a smart thinking player. Not much history with villain. Hes a standard 5/10 reg.

Dootch 10-10-2007 08:13 PM

Re: KK deep 5/10...6 max.
 
I think you're drawing to 2 outs here. You've 3bet an utg raiser in UTG+1 he has to give you respect for a big hand.

I would fold.

tweed_blazer 10-10-2007 08:22 PM

Re: KK deep 5/10...6 max.
 
Something about his hand just screams AA to me, even though his line would be extremely unorthodox for that hand. I could see him flatcalling in that spot instead of defining his range with a extremely strong reraise. I don't know. It doesn't make sense but just what I was feeling at the time.

NicholasJ 10-10-2007 08:44 PM

Re: KK deep 5/10...6 max.
 
AA or QQ have to be most of his range.

AAismyfriend 10-10-2007 08:53 PM

Re: KK deep 5/10...6 max.
 
Fold fast

tweed_blazer 10-10-2007 08:58 PM

Re: KK deep 5/10...6 max.
 
If he did have QQ though, why the gross overbet? My hand is pretty well defined and its strength is quite evident, but why wouldn't he opt to the build the pot before coming over the top if he had a hand vulnerable to only two outs? Thats what confuses me about this hand. The two most likely holdings in his range just don't fit this line at all.

Vinny80 10-10-2007 09:13 PM

Re: KK deep 5/10...6 max.
 
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If he did have QQ though, why the gross overbet? My hand is pretty well defined and its strength is quite evident, but why wouldn't he opt to the build the pot before coming over the top if he had a hand vulnerable to only two outs? Thats what confuses me about this hand. The two most likely holdings in his range just don't fit this line at all.

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it depends how he sees you, that honestly could be a case of 23th level thinking where he thinks you will think he doesn't have it, he may have a read on you here.... reads work both ways!

FireStorm 10-10-2007 09:15 PM

Re: KK deep 5/10...6 max.
 
I can't imagine why he would do this with QQ. Some people, although not most, do this with AA. However, a standard reg who has a good image of you probably doesn't. Therefore, AA or QQ would surprise me here.

That being said, I can't come up with any other hand he could have. I guess I'd fold, not wanting to call off this deep when I'm unsure and don't beat much.

AAismyfriend 10-10-2007 09:19 PM

Re: KK deep 5/10...6 max.
 
it would be even weirder if he overbet shoved this flop with 99-JJ though wouldn't it?

fringsrache 10-10-2007 09:20 PM

Re: KK deep 5/10...6 max.
 
this screams AA. fold!

GHAND 10-10-2007 09:21 PM

Re: KK deep 5/10...6 max.
 
looks like AA really, ive never seen anyone play a set like this on that type of board.

Btch_Im_Cuter 10-10-2007 09:42 PM

Re: KK deep 5/10...6 max.
 
AQ ldo.

d2themfi 10-10-2007 09:58 PM

Re: KK deep 5/10...6 max.
 
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Fold fast

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Paul B. 10-10-2007 09:59 PM

Re: KK deep 5/10...6 max.
 
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Fold fast

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