Simple pre-flop question
 

Hero: $53
Villain: $52 (15.4/15.4/?)

.10/.25 blinds

You have 88 on the button, everyone folds to you. You raise it to $1. Villain on the SB makes it $4. Do you let go right there?

Re: Simple pre-flop question
 

Hmm folding kinda makes you too easy to 3 bet off of button steals. If your opening a (presumably) large range on the button but are folding to 3 bets with hands as strong as 88 it seems your going to end up getting 3 bet quite a lot.

Plus if villain has a pretty tight range here I dont think calling for set value is too awful

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in situations like this i like to raise on occasion to narrow my range.

this is just one of those hands that are tricky to play in that situation...

i couldnt say that there is one great way to play them

tag... i would fold.. or smooth call
lag.... raise pre and flop

tight passive.. call...

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fold

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I typically call here and play back on his cbet on a lot of boards

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i'd fold 88 here unless someone has developed a pattern of 3 betting me or stacks are a little deeper. if someone is doing it a lot, i might 4bet them with whatever, but i still dong like calling with a hand like 88 with 100b stacks. i'd rather do it with something that hits more flops, and makes more use of my position.

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Are you guys leveling? How's this not an instacall given stacks, position & range of villain, for set value alone?

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i misread. i was thinking nl50 when i looked at the stack sizes, and didn't realise it was 200b deep

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if he has a tight 3bet range then you have enough implied odds to set mine. if he is looser I would still call and play back on a lot of flops.

folding here is super weak.

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I blew it! Oh well.

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You can play for set value alone, obviously. Though you shouldn't be.

Call all day. I think a lot of people missed that this was 200bb deep. A nicely converted hand would be easier on the eyes and brain. I used to be guilty of posting hands from memory. I thought it was good for me. It was, but it doesn't generate the forum responses the way one would like.