2/4 Hand Reading
 

What do you guys think he has?

Hand #46644142-13014 at Bovill (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 07/Oct/07 10:05:12

clckwrk0range is at seat 0 with $100 (sitting out).
fiyah2 is at seat 1 with $238.
nursekris is at seat 2 with $444.50.
clownTown is at seat 3 with $456.40.
1Sally is at seat 4 with $694.20.
BlondeTxCheer is at seat 5 with $1025.30.
The button is at seat 3.

1Sally posts the small blind of $2.
BlondeTxCheer posts the big blind of $4.

fiyah2: -- --
nursekris: -- --
clownTown: Qh Th
1Sally: -- --
BlondeTxCheer: -- --

Pre-flop:

fiyah2 calls. nursekris folds. clownTown raises to
$18. 1Sally calls. BlondeTxCheer folds. fiyah2
calls.

Flop (board: Qd 9c 7c):

1Sally checks. fiyah2 checks. clownTown bets $40.
1Sally calls. fiyah2 folds.

Turn (board: Qd 9c 7c Td):

1Sally bets $138.

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Reads?

Probably JT or A8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or something else stupid. Go all in.

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Push.

He can have a flopped fd that turned a combo draw, a flopped pair that turned a fd, T9 or whatever.

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lots of hands could make sense for an unknown. dont see the confusion really. probably set or straight tbh.

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i disagree that "lots of hands could make sense for an unknown". i can only see a few that make sense

edit to add: you might prove your point that a lot of hands make sense by listing some of them

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kinda hard to guess the first time he does it, but JT is the first thing that popped into my head. i have seen this done with T9 also.

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kinda hard to guess the first time he does it, but JT is the first thing that popped into my head. i have seen this done with T9 also.

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agree, and no one mentioned KJ so I will.

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how on earth could he have 9T

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you're right. please sign me up for your $1k sleepover.

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Reads?

Probably JT or A8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or something else stupid. Go all in.

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how on earth could he have 9T

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Why could he not have 9T? i think it's fairly standard to call a cbet with T9 on this board.

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I'd go with straight or set, maybe Q9s. I'm not sure about 9T but only 9sTs would be in play so I don't think it matters much.

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Whatever his range is - you are ahead of it imo. Shove.

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bruiser,

by "lots of hands make sense", i meant that there are a lot of hands i would not be surprised to see here. thats just the way things are when playing unknowns at 2/4. i guess your point is that your hand is more pretty than it is good in this spot, but once again, you're playing an unknown at 2/4. he will show up with worse often enough to shove. this hand would be more interesting vs a solid thinking regular who wont frequently overplay hands or show up with bad, random lines a lot of the time.

edit: listing hands: AQ, AA, T9, 23cc... u get my point.

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does it even matter danny? you have top two pair!

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you guys do know it's okay to fold the best hand every once in a while right? luego you have a valid point for sure, but i think its much better to analyze the hand like this

step 1: what reasonable hands could he have? (a set, or straight, QT)

step 2: how bad is he (=a unknown 2/4) and consequently how often can he have some wacky hand here and how does that match up to the strength of my hand. it's close but i'd say it's a fold. there's also the fact that when he's behind he has a lot of outs and when i'm behind i am in troubles.

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lol @ T9 doesn't make sense, of course it does, i'd say it's one of if not the most likely hand.

68 suited, T9, combo turned draw like everyone said, random KJ.

it's either something that improved his hand, or a card that is connected and scary enough that he wants to put in a bunch of money now. call or raise, but don't fold.

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Who knows what he has, you are certainly ahead.

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before i read any replies i was thinking "easy call turn call/shove any river".

why is shoving better?

edit: i guess his T9 could find a fold on a ridiculously scary river or something, but i think calling gets more from draws or some ridiculous bluff.

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go all in because he has a combo draw or T9 more often than a set. if he has J8/KJ, just reload.

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ive played a ton of limit hands with sally. not sure if it means anything she was the player who never folded and took every pair/ahigh to sd. she was a tough winning player.

not sure how new she is to nl (ive never seen her play and i play in those games a lot) but lots of limit players overrate hands at first and she is the type i would imagine would.

anyway, i know this thread is about how to play an unknown so my read shouldnt really be factored in but i hate sally and hope you guys rape her.