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futuredoc85 10-05-2007 03:31 PM

AA facing river c/r 250BBs deep vs 20BuckSpin
 
So far we have played for stacks 3 times or so, he's been bluffing twice and once my QQ>>his AK pf. I feel like my hand is face up here but not sure if that makes it a call or fold.

Poker Stars, $5/$10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $1,282
BB: $200
UTG: $930
MP: $6,762.80
Hero (CO): $2,478
BTN: $1,041

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $30</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $120</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $90

Flop: ($255) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($255) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $210</font>, Hero calls $210

River: ($675) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $500</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $6,432.80 and is All-In</font>,

Praetor 10-05-2007 03:34 PM

Re: AA facing river c/r 250BBs deep vs 20BuckSpin
 
sick spot

jj12 10-05-2007 03:34 PM

Re: AA facing river c/r 250BBs deep vs 20BuckSpin
 
I snap fold this

grindplz 10-05-2007 03:40 PM

Re: AA facing river c/r 250BBs deep vs 20BuckSpin
 
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I snap fold this

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I think you're really owned here most of the time.

Irish Mafia 10-05-2007 03:50 PM

Re: AA facing river c/r 250BBs deep vs 20BuckSpin
 
he's pretty sick if he'd doing this w/ air. then again, the way you checked the flop and flat-called the turn, its pretty obvious you are on one pair looking for a sd.

what do you make of his shove - as opposed to just raising to 1250, or something that "wants" to get called?

EmpireMaker2 10-05-2007 04:04 PM

Re: AA facing river c/r 250BBs deep vs 20BuckSpin
 
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I snap fold this

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futuredoc85 10-05-2007 04:11 PM

Re: AA facing river c/r 250BBs deep vs 20BuckSpin
 
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he's pretty sick if he'd doing this w/ air. then again, the way you checked the flop and flat-called the turn, its pretty obvious you are on one pair looking for a sd.

what do you make of his shove - as opposed to just raising to 1250, or something that "wants" to get called?

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tbh i wouldnt put any weight in that b/c he pretty much always shoves if its not a ridiculous overbet

SnglMaltScotch 10-05-2007 04:20 PM

Re: AA facing river c/r 250BBs deep vs 20BuckSpin
 
I'm confused. Why are we checking behind on a draw heavy flop. Isn't there a lot of hands that we are ahead of that call. Pairs &lt;JJ are not putting in any more money no matter what.


Thoughts?

SMS

jfish 10-05-2007 04:25 PM

Re: AA facing river c/r 250BBs deep vs 20BuckSpin
 
depends 100% on timing of his c/r.

EmpireMaker2 10-05-2007 06:08 PM

Re: AA facing river c/r 250BBs deep vs 20BuckSpin
 
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I'm confused. Why are we checking behind on a draw heavy flop. Isn't there a lot of hands that we are ahead of that call. Pairs &lt;JJ are not putting in any more money no matter what.


Thoughts?

SMS

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So we get him 2 bluff on 2 streets

Gary Stevenson 10-05-2007 06:19 PM

Re: AA facing river c/r 250BBs deep vs 20BuckSpin
 
god 20 buck is so [censored] annoying. i'd love to say call here bc he makes a lot of moves, but i've played a lot with him recently and his river c/r's always seem to be the goods

john kane 10-05-2007 06:29 PM

Re: AA facing river c/r 250BBs deep vs 20BuckSpin
 
your line is weak. the board is draw heavy but you check flop and call turn, he knows you don't have a monster and likely figured you'd call a bet on the river if he's thinking or bluffing or that you'll fire a value bet so checking again makes sense if he has you beat, hence he check raise instead imo.

whether he has you beat is pretty much impossible to know, but he knows you don't want to be check-raised on the flop and are looking for two streets of value, so he knows that if he feels like making a big move, he can.

as for how i'd play it different, i'd raise turn, your hand is then far wider.

Imrahil 10-05-2007 07:53 PM

Re: AA facing river c/r 250BBs deep vs 20BuckSpin
 
Guys, what about a sexy min-raise on the turn? Doubt he shoves a draw and he has to be sorta nuts to c/r the river w/ air or a worse hand.

futuredoc85 10-05-2007 11:59 PM

Re: AA facing river c/r 250BBs deep vs 20BuckSpin
 
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Guys, what about a sexy min-raise on the turn? Doubt he shoves a draw and he has to be sorta nuts to c/r the river w/ air or a worse hand.

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heh i def wouldnt put it past him

futuredoc85 10-06-2007 12:00 AM

Re: AA facing river c/r 250BBs deep vs 20BuckSpin
 
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god 20 buck is so [censored] annoying. i'd love to say call here bc he makes a lot of moves, but i've played a lot with him recently and his river c/r's always seem to be the goods

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ya he had KJ im such a station

Bullitos 10-06-2007 03:26 AM

Re: AA facing river c/r 250BBs deep vs 20BuckSpin
 
I like your flop check btw, folding the river is necessary now!


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