Crown Casino Fined for using short deck in card games
 

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I assume they are referring to the texas hold'em table game and not actualy Cash Poker games but still not good.

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Crown dealers < My ass

I have so many stupid dealer stories its ridiculous

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link to VCGR disciplinary action

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[x] explains how Gobboboy won Aussie Millions

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How does this happen? Even at Foxwoods when there is a new dealer they often fan the cards out and do a quick count of each deck. And Foxwoods is horrible.

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[x] explains how Gobboboy won Aussie Millions

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ummmm... are you sure about that?

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"like being slapped with a wet lettuce"

Lovin this analogy

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"like being slapped with a wet lettuce"



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For real, that fine is paltry.

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Maybe i'm wrong, but isn't it possible that the short deck HELPED the players, rather than hurt them, odds-wise?

It doesn't say what game was involved, nor whether the missing card(s) were helpful or detrimental to the player. It's possible that there were disclosure requirements that required the casino to report the short deck, and that they could be fined for improprieties irrespective of whether the short-deck helped or hurt the players.

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just was thinking about this in regards to blackjack the other day, has anyone ever heard of a case of a casino removing/adding cards from a multideck game. it seems to me as much as casinos seem to want to avoid having good counters beating their games .... it would be hard to detect and ... well anyways just curious if this have ever come up that anyone knows of.

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just was thinking about this in regards to blackjack the other day, has anyone ever heard of a case of a casino removing/adding cards from a multideck game. it seems to me as much as casinos seem to want to avoid having good counters beating their games .... it would be hard to detect and ... well anyways just curious if this have ever come up that anyone knows of.

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I haven't heard about this, but I do know that some casinos (legally and within the rules, if you read their fine print), have had single and double deck games that were actually six decks shuffled together, and then a single or double deck worth of cards removed from that shuffle to create the illusion of a one or 2 deck game when you're really playing a six deck game with only one or 2 decks worth of penetration.

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just was thinking about this in regards to blackjack the other day, has anyone ever heard of a case of a casino removing/adding cards from a multideck game. it seems to me as much as casinos seem to want to avoid having good counters beating their games .... it would be hard to detect and ... well anyways just curious if this have ever come up that anyone knows of.

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I forget the details, but a small Indian Casino did this years ago when I was pretty new to the business.

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I read this, it actually sounded like it was the actual cash games. Which i find odd, they're always so prompt to replace bad cards when I'm there

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when i was playing wsop event in AC we were playing with 51 cards for like 2 hours before they found out

some guy even brought it up cause the shuffler said 51 cards and the dealer was like thats usually wrong

then they did nothing when they found out [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Crown dealers < My ass

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They must have a huge turn around with dealers there.. 90% have no idea what they are doing- regs deal like its their first day on the job. The main floor there is an absolute tool also.

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It's still far better than Star City in Sydney [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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It's still far better than Star City in Sydney

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Pretty sure everywhere is, but hey your players are even worse than ours...

I cant wait til the Sydney boys come! Woot!

JT

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Is the only poker room at the crown the space downstairs that has about 15 tables? The casino has way to many slot machines that are too similar.

Anyone play the electronic roulette games there?

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more like 50 tables and about 10 pokerpro electronic tables.
they also have a area upstairs which they open at peak times (aussie million & vic/melbourne champs) which has about 8 tables

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Damn, I didn't know that. I live near it and go there now and then but only found one smallish poker area. Whereabouts are all the electronic top tables and 50 tables?

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If you go downstairs there are some higher limit tables on the left site and at learst during the Aussiemillions there where lots of tables on the rigth site. if you cross the room to the other side you´ll find the computertables. There also is another entry on the computertable side.

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would a vegas casino get fined if this happened? would anyone ever find out? seems like a tough line (and rightly so).

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"like being slapped with a wet lettuce"

Lovin this analogy

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that's actually a play on a comment by the immediate-past Prime Minister of Australia, Paul Keating, who said that about the then-opposition leader, John Hewson.

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just was thinking about this in regards to blackjack the other day, has anyone ever heard of a case of a casino removing/adding cards from a multideck game. it seems to me as much as casinos seem to want to avoid having good counters beating their games .... it would be hard to detect and ... well anyways just curious if this have ever come up that anyone knows of.

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I forget the details, but a small Indian Casino did this years ago when I was pretty new to the business.

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Sounds like Soaring Eagle about 10 years ago. I could be mistaken though.

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Nobody counts the stub anymore, reading some of the stories I've heard here.

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What a novel idea oversight in gaming, bah we don't need that online! We got a great system in place now, you could equate it to going to LV and playing in casinos that are exempt from US litigation and no oversight...hail to the risk takers we are it. Oh wait I forgot they are regulated by Canadian Indians and Trinidad....never mind move along all is well.