Royal Flush on board
 

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $9.95
SB: $8.60
Hero (BB): $10.30
UTG: $10.15
MP: $10.20
CO: $5.45

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, CO calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($0.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($0.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Results: $0.25 Pot
Hero showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a Royal Flush) and WON $0.15 (+$0.05 NET)
CO showed 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a Royal Flush) and WON $0.10 (-$0 NET)

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way to build that pot up to induce a bluff..

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shove river imo

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lol at it being checked through on the river... serious biz

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Why the hell would you shove? Do you hate money? Do you have 150% Rakeback?

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Why the hell would you shove? Do you hate money? Do you have 150% Rakeback?

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maybe you have not heard, but no limit holdem (the cadillac of poker) is about putting your opponent to a decision for all his chips

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agree with river shove

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Value bet your royal flush.

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Why the hell would you shove? Do you hate money? Do you have 150% Rakeback?

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If he hated money he should open fold river...shoving river seems +ev to me.

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agree with river shove

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Isn't it a must fold due to the rake if the other guy pushes?

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agree with river shove

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Isn't it a must fold due to the rake if the other guy pushes?

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WRONG, fully 75% of the plays i make are motivated by spite

ez call

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Shove river for extra fpps.

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open fold river to induce CO life tilt

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bet turn, you have a straigth, a straigth is a very strong hand!

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make sure to type "I win you" after you shove the river.

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fold preflop

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if you shove he will have a -EV call becouse the rake is more then the haf of the pot he would win by calling, hence shoving is +EV

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if you shove he will have a -EV call becouse the rake is more then the haf of the pot he would win by calling, hence shoving is +EV

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except that he will always call, so shoving is -EV

I vote for the open fold, that would be some pimp metagame right there

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if you shove he will have a -EV call becouse the rake is more then the haf of the pot he would win by calling, hence shoving is +EV

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except that he will always call, so shoving is -EV

I vote for the open fold, that would be some pimp metagame right there

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i bet a lot of people at .05/.10 would fold river shove not noticing/knowing board is a royal flush

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shoving river is def -ev.

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make sure to type "I you call baby, its all over IMO" after you shove the river.

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shoving river is def -ev.

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o rly?

On a side note: bet flop, shove turn.

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Nice suckout fish

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type: "you can't call this because the rake will be higher than the chop"

shove

watch him call anyway

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shove > open fold

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I would open fold this. Just for the story to tell.

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I only opened this thread because I thought it was about making a big river bet and getting some stupid folds.

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Don't shove river, but def bet river. At least a minbet.

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Normally I say shove river but this pot is sooo small that you really SHOULD check since the $15 pot probably gets more than an additional .10 rake everytime...

so unless he folds constantly and you make that 10 cents every time... check or minbet since that wont increase the rake at all i would hope

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type: "you can't call this because the rake will be higher than the chop"

shove

watch him call anyway

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hahah so true

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Why the hell would you shove? Do you hate money? Do you have 150% Rakeback?

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maybe you have not heard, but no limit holdem (the cadillac of poker) is about putting your opponent to a decision for all his chips

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A+, would read again.

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At FT I shove the river since I get sick rakeback
Since this is on PS, its a def fold IMO.

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31 posts debating rake on this hand = way bigger waste than any value lost by shoving or not shoving this river.

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easy shove not worth the discussion

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if you shove he will have a -EV call becouse the rake is more then the haf of the pot he would win by calling, hence shoving is +EV

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except that he will always call, so shoving is -EV

I vote for the open fold, that would be some pimp metagame right there

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i bet a lot of people at .05/.10 would fold river shove not noticing/knowing board is a royal flush

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no way, one thing every fish is hyper aware of is the board. If there are 3 kings on board, some moron always has to go "whos got the 4th!!??" if there are 4 clubs on board its "whos got the ace?!?!" if the flop is 78T same suit its "wow, I wish I had J9, straight flush baby!". I think its an equal mix of they always fear monsters and they are trying to show how smart they are by somehow being able to read the board and identify the nuts.

also, I change my vote from open fold to terps suggestion.

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agree with river shove

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Isn't it a must fold due to the rake if the other guy pushes?

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WRONG, fully 75% of the plays i make are motivated by spite

ez call

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"Why are you returning this jacket?"

"For spite."

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shove river and type "you call its gon' be all ova babeee" in chatbox

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for whats in the pot, id open fold river jus to say i lost wit a royal flush.

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maybe you have not heard, but no limit holdem (the cadillac of poker) is about putting your opponent to a decision for all his chips

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nh

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I only opened this thread because I thought it was about making a big river bet and getting some stupid folds.

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