i am an embarrassment
 

So after being burnt out for the past 6 months and barely playing, my life savings have finally dwindled to ~12k. I am posting this because hopefully this will help me have some accountability.

I have basically not played at all. I got complacent knowing I had enough money to live without working, and have consistently used the excuse that most people my age live paycheck to paycheck and have no savings.

I'm going to be 23 soon, and I think it's time for me to start busting my ass and making money. I've always said that I don't want to be a low limit grinder forever and that I want to play midstakes at the least.

I'm basically spending too much and not caring that I'm not playing enough to cover my monthly nut. Last month I spent probably like 3k total and barely played.

As I said earlier, I'm down to 12k. For whatever reason, I've finally realized that this situation and this laziness is unacceptable.

I am going to play 6 hours a day 4-6 tabling 200nl. I know playing 6-7 days a week is impossible, but I will not stand for less than 5. I am going to attempt to spend no more than my expenses and frugal entertainment costs. This will not be a blind play as many hands as possible marathon either. This is about making money, and I have to exert discipline and focus on playing optimally, even when I am running poorly.

I'm going to try to stay away from going out to party every weekend. Once in awhile is acceptable, but I have not worked hard enough in the past 6 months to justify the reward of relaxing by going out and partying at the end of the week. Instead, my non-poker activities will be spent constructively going to play basketball and tennis, which I enjoy immensely.

I'm not going to be upset by the inevitable sarcastic responses because I deserve the ridicule for letting my finances fall into such shambles. I brought it on myself because of my laziness. This situation is unacceptable for someone who is not a student and who supports himself solely through poker.

At the end of this month, hopefully I will have good results to report back to BBV. There will be no letup thereafter either. I don't want to be a bum.

-nation

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thank me later, but dont put in massive amounts of hands. play 1-2 tables and focus on decisions.

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jfish,

"This will not be a blind play as many hands as possible marathon either. This is about making money, and I have to exert discipline and focus on playing optimally, even when I am running poorly."

i edited before you replied.

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nice post, gl with it all

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This is like EXACTLY where I am financially except I don't have the burden of personal expenses. (rent etc)

GL to me and you.

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i'll be at ur tables making sure u lose. :_)

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at least you are good at guitar hero!!!!!!!!!

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i've worked out a pretty good system playing halo 3 and one tabling 2/4 switching when i die or win a big pot. call it cross disciplinary enlightenment or what you will but i never get bored and never have to exercise patience. i plan on doing this until i'm rich and above the law. pm me for details.

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cool spot i suggest game selectopm

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thank me later, but dont put in massive amounts of hands. play 1-2 tables and focus on decisions.

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1-2 is ridiculously boring- which leads to playing bad.. 4-6 sounds good and easily doable full time.

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That was pretty inspirational nation, I feel the need to focus more on poker now. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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i 1 table all the time, but whatever.

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i 1 table all the time, but whatever.

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Hell yeah.

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Dont make fun of 1tabeling [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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That was pretty inspirational nation, I feel the need to focus more on poker now. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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also, if i wasn't so poor, i'd def. want to prop bet on something to help me get more hands. but i'm so poor.

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at least you are good at guitar hero!!!!!!!!!

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I am the same way. I only covered my monthly nut for the last 2 out of 7 months. I only have a crappy associates degree. And while I am down to 15k instead of 12k I am also 4 years older than you and I only play 100 NL.

But if you've ever had as many real jobs as I've had you would be thanking your lucky stars just to be able to simply go to sleep and wake up whenever you feel like it.

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trust me, i've enjoyed that feeling a lot, and that's partially why i'm such a lazy piece of crap. i've been acting like i have no responsibility.

one of my plans to help myself is to go to sleep and wake up at decent hours. it won't be optimal playing times but it will help me get things out of the way early like working out and whatnot instead of waking up late and having no time to run errands. having a flexible semi-schedule should help me out a lot.

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Do you plan in advance with your roll. I have been thinking about how i would pay myself for rent and such for a living. I would feel uneasy if i didnt have everything paid for 2 months ahead.

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GL nation...+1 for the similar boat as you

cashed out way too much and when i found time for playing i played like [censored]. really focused now to make some legit money...currently in a huge [censored] session focused so GL to you again.

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I'm not playing enough hours either. Fortunately I'm retired so I don't have to make my nut, but I feel I should play more. Maybe I should get TiVo, so I don't have an excuse not to play just because MMA or whatever is on TV.

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But if you've ever had as many real jobs as I've had

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A real job is one which you can earn a living wage off of that can sustain a family. Not that job working in the bakery at Panera or stocking groceries or delivering pizzas or working at the theatre or whatever other of these "real jobs" you talk about that can get you by week to week. Thats not a "real job" thats called a grind.


If you actually mean "real jobs" like an ASP developer or draft engineer or something that can actually turn into a real career, then well, I apologize. But don't try to make it sound like you can't get anywhere with just a "crappy associates". I make 50+ a year with "just a crappy associates" - and I'm underpaid for what I do.


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But if you've ever had as many real jobs as I've had

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A real job is one which you can earn a living wage off of that can sustain a family. Not that job working in the bakery at Panera or stocking groceries or delivering pizzas or working at the theatre or whatever other of these "real jobs" you talk about that can get you by week to week. Thats not a "real job" thats called a grind.


If you actually mean "real jobs" like an ASP developer or draft engineer or something that can actually turn into a real career, then well, I apologize. But don't try to make it sound like you can't get anywhere with just a "crappy associates". I make 50+ a year with "just a crappy associates" - and I'm underpaid for what I do.


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lol families.

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youre gonna be at 1-2 full ring for the next 50 years nation

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gl with this nation...the rate u want to go at it is sustainable, especially since u don't work

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But if you've ever had as many real jobs as I've had

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A real job is one which you can earn a living wage off of that can sustain a family. Not that job working in the bakery at Panera or stocking groceries or delivering pizzas or working at the theatre or whatever other of these "real jobs" you talk about that can get you by week to week. Thats not a "real job" thats called a grind.


If you actually mean "real jobs" like an ASP developer or draft engineer or something that can actually turn into a real career, then well, I apologize. But don't try to make it sound like you can't get anywhere with just a "crappy associates". I make 50+ a year with "just a crappy associates" - and I'm underpaid for what I do.


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you know i have a "real job" working 40 hours a week and i basically do jack [censored] all day. i wear torn jeans to work, get to keep my piercings in, i sit at a desk posting on 2p2 and get a 500$ paycheck a week.

then i play 50nl for a few hours and take 1k profit a month (easily done) and stash it into my ING mutual fund account.

i figure in 10 years or so i can probably move down to a part time job, then in another 10 years retire.

by not having an interest bearing account (i dunno if u do or not, but i have 3) in a few years time ur going to be kicking yourself when u realize how much $ you've lost out on in compounding interest. it's pretty phenominal stuff.

edit: just wanted to make a point that in the morning if ur not playing you can still sit around and STILL get paid for it.

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Hi nation, Im pretty sure Im moving into the same condo complex as you, that is all.

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nation i always thought you were older, why do you want to make some this kind of committment to anything at 23, just enjoy your time at the moment and get by.

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I doubt nation can beat 1/2.

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LOL @ being too lazy to play online poker. WOW.

You're too lazy to walk to your computer chair and click a mouse?? NL200 is too mentally exhausting?

I mean it's one thing to say you don't like online poker as justification for not playing, but laziness makes no sense to me as a reason.

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nation i always thought you were older, why do you want to make some this kind of committment to anything at 23, just enjoy your time at the moment and get by.

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Yeah really. Way back in 2003 when I was 23 I thought Chris Moneymaker was the best player in the world. I played $5 SNGs on Paradise and worked at FedEx. And now look at me, I play 100 NL for a living!


Balla.

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edit: just wanted to make a point that in the morning if ur not playing you can still sit around and STILL get paid for it.

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I'm sure there are a number of people like that and in some ways I'm jealous. Though I'd probably get way bored not being engaged with something I like doing, even if it was an easy $2k a month. There comes a time when if you don't enjoy what you're doing, you're not living.

I took offense at the "crappy associates degree" comment basically.

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LOL @ being too lazy to play online poker. WOW.

You're too lazy to walk to your computer chair and click a mouse?? NL200 is too mentally exhausting?

I mean it's one thing to say you don't like online poker as justification for not playing, but laziness makes no sense to me as a reason.

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dude, everyone is too lazy to play online poker here. If every winning player on 2p2 played 6hrs a day 5 days a week ...



... i dont know. But they dont.

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nation, sorry but none of this sounds like a good idea. You've got what...6 months living expenses in the bank and you're burnt out from poker and the solution is to play an insane amount of poker? That just sounds like a recipe for disaster.

So let's say you make your monthly nut from doing this...now what? Are you going to do it again? You're burntout from poker, the solution should not be more poker.

If you really are burntout and worried about money, get a job (seriously), a real job with career prospects and take some real time off poker. Then gradually reintroduce it by playing parttime and if you still love it go pro again in a year or two.

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LOL @ being too lazy to play online poker. WOW.

You're too lazy to walk to your computer chair and click a mouse?? NL200 is too mentally exhausting?

I mean it's one thing to say you don't like online poker as justification for not playing, but laziness makes no sense to me as a reason.

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It is mentally exhausting to play your A-game at poker for more than a few hours at a time and I don't know any pro playing more than 30 hrs a week.

Multitabling Poker takes 10X the mental concentration in a given hour than a typical desk job.

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Grind it out bro, build your BR up 10x, 20x, 30x ect... I'm sure you have the skills to rape 200nl.

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how about trying out a different form of poker? HUsngs are a great way to build a roll and you actually get to play poker as well.

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If you really are burntout and worried about money, get a job (seriously), a real job with career prospects and take some real time off poker. Then gradually reintroduce it by playing parttime and if you still love it go pro again in a year or two.

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I was reading through the thread and getting ready to post exactly that - QFT.

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Nation= PristMLH

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he is?

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nations here to tell it how it is in bbv
too many dudes are really actin so dishonestly
hiv tried to sneak one under corporation's nose,
too late though, gild made it rain on them hoes

wannabe be hustla vig gave us a sob story,
tried to take a shot but of course was left with zero glory
got pics of his girlfriend and kid to try to make it real,
got the money from the suckers using all her sex appeal.

i come with dirt from the secret mod forum
where mods is actin crazy with zero decorum
none of yall can see the crazy ish thats being said
don't piss mat off, he'll snipe you with some verbal bullet lead

i bring the drama to the boards, i dont hold it out,
give grim a [censored] you'll get some cash, thats without a doubt
some poeple on these boards are out to get a little fame
like good2cu's crew but they still got zero macking game

yea im a grinder slash nit but i work hard,
cuttin people up like yves cuts lines with his credit card,
makin it keep happenin at poker, got big dreams,
on my grind hard with some solid moneymakin schemes

so any of you wack bustos wanna come battle me,
take a minute, think, cuz i'll dominate you mentally,
but after this verse we'll all be back into our old crew,
i'm bbv 4 lyfe so hey bbv what it do