quick question about talking during a hand..
 

the pots three way, i open raise on the cut-off for 4bbs with pocket nines. (two very passive players) the button re-raises for 12 bbs and the OOP player pushes for his remaining 40 bbs or so.

obviously im not going to call, and i made a very educated guess and i said aloud "pocket jacks or tens?" while im mucking my hand. The button decides for a while and manages to call the remaining 28 bbs, and she flips over a q suited.

flop comes A x x x x and he takes down a decent size pot.
the OOP player shows J J and is furious at me for saying my guess aloud as that compromised the pot. i explained to him he couldnt have played the hand more obvious from my perspective (as he ALWAYS slow plays kk aa) and he got up left the room for the rest of the night.

it was only 1-2nl so i didnt feel he needed to get so upset considering how low the stakes were, so my question is: since i was involved in the pot am i allowed to speak my thoughts, or is considered bad mannered to even talk while involved in a hand? obviously this may be an opinionated response but i would like some replies.

Thanks!

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It's inappropriate to talk about a hand in play unless it's heads up and you are one of the two contesting the pot.

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It is bad etiquette to guess the guys hand when you are not hu. This is because you words clearly influence remaining play.

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the OOP player shows J J and and he got up left the room fis furious at me for saying my guess aloud as that compromised the pot. i explained to him he couldnt have played the hand more obvious from my perspective

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Omg, I can imagine the dialogue "hey you are not supposed to make comments on my hand as it can help other player" "yeah but I am so smart I figured out your hand cause poker is so easy for me".

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i explained to him he couldnt have played the hand more obvious from my perspective

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And since it was obvious you felt compelled to point it out to the third player because you wanted to prove that you can see the obvious?

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I have a question, would this be any different if he made a clearly sarcastic comment like "You have 27 os, right".

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I have a question, would this be any different if he made a clearly sarcastic comment like "You have 27 os, right".

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He shouldn't be making any ccomment about the hand, but nobody is likely to get upset when the comment appears to be a joke.

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I have a question, would this be any different if he made a clearly sarcastic comment like "You have 27 os, right".

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He shouldn't be making any ccomment about the hand, but nobody is likely to get upset when the comment appears to be a joke.

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so perfect

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the OOP player shows J J and and he got up left the room fis furious at me for saying my guess aloud as that compromised the pot. i explained to him he couldnt have played the hand more obvious from my perspective

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Omg, I can imagine the dialogue "hey you are not supposed to make comments on my hand as it can help other player" "yeah but I am so smart I figured out your hand cause poker is so easy for me".

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well didnt go QUITE like that, but it was more of an impulsive gesture saying it aloud. (considering i played online alot more than live)

but yea against players that moronic about how they play their hands, it isnt very hard to pinpoint his handm especially when the guy has been leaning back in his chair mucking for the past half hour and he suddenly straightens up when he enters the pot.

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but yea against players that moronic about how they play their hands, it isnt very hard to pinpoint his handm especially when the guy has been leaning back in his chair mucking for the past half hour and he suddenly straightens up when he enters the pot.

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Hear that?

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That's the sound of you missing the point of the replies to your post.

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so you did something you know you're not supposed to, then come here asking if it's ok because it was an obvious situation? keep your mouth shut and you wont have to ask this question again

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The stakes don't matter - you're basically saying because you don't feel like you are playing for much money that you don't have to behave properly.

Don't say things during a hand - think them. It's a basic courtesy...and if that's not something you care about, think about it this way - you just chased off a good donator, and potentially just made your game tougher to beat.

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You are an [censored].

STFU.

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Wow, thank you for creating this account and this thread in order to inform us all of how much of a rockstar you are at poker. I am awed.

I bet you also throw out little bits of poker trivia and math at the table, and read hands aloud before the dealer does, too.

At least do us a favor and put out your bets cleanly and within reach of the dealer. When you muck, do so in turn, clearly, and also within reach of the dealer.

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I have kinda done something like this to get a call when I have a great hand. ~$250 pot, heads up and I have the nut flush and action has been checked to me on the river, grabbing my whole stack,~$300, I put it in while saying "I know you cant beat a straight", villain instacalls and shows a low flush with a hudge smirk on his face which quicly goes away when he sees the A10 in my hand. He calls floor, who rules that I did nothing wrong, SHIP IT.

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I have kinda done something like this to get a call when I have a great hand. ~$250 pot, heads up and I have the nut flush and action has been checked to me on the river, grabbing my whole stack,~$300, I put it in while saying "I know you cant beat a straight", villain instacalls and shows a low flush with a hudge smirk on his face which quicly goes away when he sees the A10 in my hand. He calls floor, who rules that I did nothing wrong, SHIP IT.

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This is standard and you did nothing wrong.

OP, on the other hand, needs to keep his mouth shut.

You see the difference?

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I have kinda done something like this to get a call when I have a great hand. ~$250 pot, heads up and I have the nut flush and action has been checked to me on the river, grabbing my whole stack,~$300, I put it in while saying "I know you cant beat a straight", villain instacalls and shows a low flush with a hudge smirk on his face which quicly goes away when he sees the A10 in my hand. He calls floor, who rules that I did nothing wrong, SHIP IT.

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You were heads-up, it's completely different.

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I would have been pissed off too. Does that answer your question?

However, I wouldn't have left. I'd call the floor over to explain to you the rules which he/she would do a lot better than I could in that state of mind.

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the OOP player shows J J and is furious at me for saying my guess aloud as that compromised the pot. i explained to him he couldnt have played the hand more obvious from my perspective (as he ALWAYS slow plays kk aa) and he got up left the room for the rest of the night.

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If you have a guy pegged to this degree - why would you want to let him know it?

Especially because you were folding on this hand and could gain nothing further by stating your opinion.

And I agree with other posters that to analyze somebody else's hand with another person in the hand is clearly against the rules.

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One time in my life I called a floor over to explain to someone about table talk. The guy had made a comment and I (I think politely) requested he not do that. He gives me a "I'll do what I please" response. Dealer didn't say anything, but the floor happened to be standing at the next table... "Jim, could you come explain something to this gentleman, please." Jim did a fine job of explaining that he didn't really much care what the gentleman's views on the subject were, if he did it again he'd be sent packing.

19 times out of 20 people realize they goofed and apologize. 1 in 20 they react badly. OP is one of those 1 in 20 dips.

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and she flips over a q suited.

flop comes A x x x x and he takes down a decent size pot.


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What I don't get is how the winner went from a "she" to a "he"...

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OP,

Don't do that anymore.

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If this was a "quick question" and the answers have all been the same, why is this thread still going? LOL

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wow, this is a rough forum haha. umm, it didnt exactly go to me telling him how badly he misplayed his hand, i was being berated after i CLEARLY made an accident and he continued to go on about it. i DID apologize and he continued to berate me.

but to everyone who thinks im full of myself, i didnt mean to come off like that, i obviously didnt know EXACTLY what he had, but its just an impulse to think aloud sometimes when im in a hand (internet player in me XD) and since this incident ive been very silent.

so to get it straight when someone is behind to act just keep the mouth closed. i got it. and i appreciated the people who just flat out told me instead of going into flame mode on the noob [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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quick dumb story...

i was at the detroit casino playing FL HE, in BB, and the UTG
raised... the CO reraised, UTG re-re-raised, CO, capped it...

watching the action, I wanted to blurt out to the CO...
"HE'S GOT POCKET ACES, YOU MORON!!"

( which he did... )

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STFU

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so to get it straight when someone is behind to act just keep the mouth closed.

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Close, but no banana.

Don't say anything at all.

The reason is that somebody may not see the value of his/her hand. This happened just the other day with me at a 15/30 game. A single 9 or K made a straight, and at the end in a big pot between three players it was bet call raise call fold. Raiser had two pair, caller just showed his top pair of aces and was about to muck, when the folder groaned that he had a 9. Guy with the ace paused and checked his kicker and scooped.

Now, I'm a fan of the best hand winning (as it is online), but as with other things online (such as being able to see all the hands at showdown), it doesn't carry over to live play. And on that note, please never ever EVER ask to see a mucked hand. Just STFU, really.

Why do you need to say something? Are you trying to convince people that you're a better player than they are so that they play smarter against you? How is this even remotely +EV?

Also, make sure you act quickly, and don't stack your chips in the 10 or 1 seat in such a way that the delaer has a problem pitching cards around them.

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Completely agree with the general opinion on this. I was at a 1/2 NL at the Borg this weekend where people were talking about their/other hands in multiway pots.

But a quick question to the table/dealer informed me that everyone was ok with the talk.

It was 3AM, but I'd never been at a table where it was ok, even almost encouraged.

Not sure how they'd figure what the boundary was though was for you could go.