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People_Mover 09-28-2007 11:34 AM

1/2NL - turned flush and get 3 bet
 
opponent is pretty awful. The first hand he sat down, he raised to 6.00, I raised to 18.00 with QQ, he made is 54.00 and I shoved and held vs. his K9 [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] not on my home machine, so going from memory.

He has since been potting every flop and turn and I've been folding most of the time.

Stacks 300.00.

I complete Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], he raises to 6.00 and I call.

12.00 FLOP: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

hero check, he bets 8.00, hero call.

38.00 - Turn 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

hero check: he bets 12.00, Hero c/r 50.00, he minraises to like 92.00. barf then.....

xSCWx 09-28-2007 11:41 AM

Re: 1/2NL - turned flush and get 3 bet
 
You should reraise this flop.

I'd either shove here or call, time down, then shove the river.

TNixon 09-28-2007 11:46 AM

Re: 1/2NL - turned flush and get 3 bet
 
Why are you barfing when there are only 2 possible hands that beat you, against an opponent who you have already seen *SERIOUSLY* overvalues really bad hands, and seems incapable of slowing down?

I would be very surprised if even the nittiest of posters here comes out with anything other than "push and pump fist, knowing he's going to call even if he just has 7s2c".

Is this on Full Tilt, by chance? If so, I think I've played this guy before. And if it is the same guy, you should not only push and pump, but you should start giggling in glee, because if you run slightly better than really bad, you're about to take another 4-5 buyins from him before he quits.

xSCWx 09-28-2007 12:08 PM

Re: 1/2NL - turned flush and get 3 bet
 
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Why are you barfing when there are only 2 possible hands that beat you, against an opponent who you have already seen *SERIOUSLY* overvalues really bad hands, and seems incapable of slowing down?

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I don't even have time to fist pump here because I'm too busy ordering hookers!

People_Mover 09-28-2007 12:11 PM

Re: 1/2NL - turned flush and get 3 bet
 
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Is this on Full Tilt, by chance? If so, I think I've played this guy before.

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yes, this is on FT. I can't remember his name off hand, but I'll post it when I get home.

xSCWx 09-28-2007 12:13 PM

Re: 1/2NL - turned flush and get 3 bet
 
5:1 on it being a different donk!

TNixon 09-28-2007 12:14 PM

Re: 1/2NL - turned flush and get 3 bet
 
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I don't even have time to fist pump here because I'm too busy ordering hookers!

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LOL

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but I'll post it when I get home.

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OMG! Please don't post his name! PM me if you want verification. But I look for this guy every time I log in. I don't want anybody else to be hunting for him.

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TNixon 09-28-2007 12:17 PM

Re: 1/2NL - turned flush and get 3 bet
 
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5:1 on it being a different donk!

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I don't play enough cash to know if that's a really common behavior. I can't imagine anybody who does that keeping their money for long, though, so it would have to be a super-rich donk who just throws money away.

There can't be *that* many, can there?

Also, I realize you probably assumed the OP was exaggerating when he said villain was potting *every* flop and turn, but if it is the same guy, or somebody who plays just like him, this was no exaggeration. It was pure fact.

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abcjnich 09-28-2007 12:17 PM

Re: 1/2NL - turned flush and get 3 bet
 
uhhh instacall. This is a call in 6max and possibly full ring. People should realize that for the most part if it is a call in 6max, it is a snapcall heads up. This is actually a push here because he calls with any flush and any 2p/set and you don't want river cards killing your action.

If your read on him is that he bets tiny with great hands (may be the case) then you should just call down.

xSCWx 09-28-2007 12:23 PM

Re: 1/2NL - turned flush and get 3 bet
 
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There can't be *that* many, can there?


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Playing heads up is like being an Olympic sprinter competing in the special olympics, except that the Olympic sprinter loses like 40% of the time.

TNixon 09-28-2007 12:24 PM

Re: 1/2NL - turned flush and get 3 bet
 
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This is actually a push here because he calls with any flush and any 2p/set and you don't want river cards killing your action.

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Actually, against the described opponent, I think it's pretty close between pushing and just calling and letting him push the river.

The one time I played an opponent this crazy, he eventually started folding to my raises (after like the 3rd buyin), but would still likely bet all-in on most rivers *no matter what his cards were*.

He's not *quite* firmly on the hook here yet, so calling might be better than pushing, but I think he's calling a push often enough that it's better, for the reasons you stated.

xSCWx 09-28-2007 12:28 PM

Re: 1/2NL - turned flush and get 3 bet
 
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This is actually a push here because he calls with any flush and any 2p/set and you don't want river cards killing your action.

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Actually, against the described opponent, I think it's pretty close between pushing and just calling and letting him push the river.

The one time I played an opponent this crazy, he eventually started folding to my raises (after like the 3rd buyin), but would still likely bet all-in on most rivers *no matter what his cards were*.

He's not *quite* firmly on the hook here yet, so calling might be better than pushing, but I think he's calling a push often enough that it's better, for the reasons you stated.

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I was kind of torn between the two options as well. If you push you are certainly getting value for the hand, but your cards are pretty much face up unless he is retarded. Calling loses value from Ah (or costs you the hand if it hits), but makes it considerably easier to get value against pairs.

jakeduke 09-28-2007 02:20 PM

Re: 1/2NL - turned flush and get 3 bet
 
Isn't the action messed up here? Aren't you IP? I don't see how you complete/call and then manage to be OOP for the rest of the hand. Either way, please c/r the flop - you have a real big hand here. Given your read just shove the turn - he's calling with AhX, any flush, and probably worse.

creedofhubris 10-01-2007 03:07 AM

Re: 1/2NL - turned flush and get 3 bet
 
uhh, go broke? he sounds like an idiot maniac, and there are lots of worse hands he could be minraising for value

RyanJM 10-01-2007 10:42 AM

Re: 1/2NL - turned flush and get 3 bet
 
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Playing heads up is like being an Olympic sprinter competing in the special olympics, except that the Olympic sprinter loses like 40% of the time.

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Nothing of value to add except that I LOL'd at this.

Merlinius 10-01-2007 02:11 PM

Re: 1/2NL - turned flush and get 3 bet
 
hesitate for about 3-4 seconds, call and shove over his river bet unless a heart shows up or the board pairs.


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