plo100 - fold wrap??
 

Button is a solid TAG with workman like stats(25/9/3.5) usually shows up with the goods, UTG as pretty poor (60/10/2.3) over 80 hands. im running 30/12/2.5 but the session has been pretty poor and im not hitting at all

im not a big fan of wraps on flush boards, and after the action what am i beating??

Cryptologic
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $56.35
Hero: $103.70
Button: $139.95
SB: $161.95
BB: $72.70

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4.5</font>, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($15, 3 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $15</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $51.85</font>, Hero ???

Re: plo100 - fold wrap??
 

I like a fold here... there's probably a flush draw out and button may have 2 pair / set. You could of course shove over the top of UTG and hope he has a naked flush draw... or with the dead money it's probably +EV vs a set... hard to sell the story that you checked a set on this flop though so Button may look you up quite light.

Re: plo100 - fold wrap??
 

Fold, dont raise in that pos with that many players, on that kind of draw :/

Re: plo100 - fold wrap??
 

I agree a fold is good here. Sounds like villian definately has at least a set here and is most likely also drawing to the flush and / or straight.

Sounds like you have had a case of no cards hitting and when you finally see a flop after hours of play with prospects you are tempted to call... been there lol.

Re: plo100 - fold wrap??
 

i would definitely like a fold here. you havent committed much at all to this pot and even if you do hit a q or 10 you may be up against qk10 hand so you are really only thinking that an 8 or 7 are your outs here. i would think that the button, from what you say, has got a set or muc more dominant draw than yours, and the poor player probably had a flush draw

Re: plo100 - fold wrap??
 

Looks like a fold, there is a heavy chance you are facing top two/set AND a hand involving the NFD. You don't come out good against this range, and as stated the Q/T parts of your wrap don't make you the nuts. You also have no blockers to the diamonds. I'd muck here.

Re: plo100 - fold wrap??
 

fold.

Re: plo100 - fold wrap??
 

pretty easy fold with the diamonds out there and your wrap would be stronger with a king. if you're opponents have set or flush draw and improve you're drawing dead. call if you hate money

Re: plo100 - fold wrap??
 

i thought this was maybe closer than this but most of you like a fold here, and i agreed - Button turned up with AAxx w/diamonds and UTG with J9xx, giving me 31% equity

Turn blanked, river rainbow K to give me the nut straight [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

does anyone c/bet this type of hand usually?? i mean i have hit the board pretty hard for my holding

Re: plo100 - fold wrap??
 

of course i cbet

Re: plo100 - fold wrap??
 

PF is a raise; as played. I also like a CB on this board with this hand.

Re: plo100 - fold wrap??
 

pretty easy fold

Re: plo100 - fold wrap??
 

I think a cbet is pretty standard here. Can you tell us why you didn't make one?

I do think that, given the action you should now fold. You said that you had 31% equity here. This will not often be the case. against 2 opponents you will often see 2 pr/set from one, and fd+wrap from the other a lot.

Re: plo100 - fold wrap??
 

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I think a cbet is pretty standard here. Can you tell us why you didn't make one?

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umm, looking back i cant think why i didnt make one - im betting here 9/10 im sure - i think it may just have been a pretty poor session with nothing hitting, and if i remember rightly this was just before i decided to quit, which is pretty lame but when you have had one of those sessions at the end of a long day i sometimes get abit lethargic like that

Re: plo100 - fold wrap??
 

def c-betting this flop putting you in a position to call most raises. Not being result oriented but yeah. Though I have had many experiences where i cbet in a spot like this and turn is a [censored] broadway diamond.

Re: plo100 - fold wrap??
 

This is def not a preflop raise.

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This is def a preflop raise.

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