QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($133.25)
MP2 ($29.25)
MP3 ($18.25) is 100/37/1 over 8 hands
CO ($49)
Button ($73.90) is 18/4/1 over 100 hands
SB ($55.40)
BB ($83.45) is 17/6/.8 over 90 hands
Hero ($53.70)
UTG+1 ($51.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $6.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $6, Hero ...

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 

You're either a big dog (v AA / KK) or a small favourite (v AK).

Fold, not the place for QQ. You also aren't closing the action, so unfortunately villian can also go all in making you fold / put you in a worse spot.

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 

call

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 

An ugly spot as Peleus says, cut your loses and wait for a better spot. Sucks to muck QQ preflop but [censored] happens.

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 

probly going to get 4-1 odds.. I think i call

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 

You have a weak/tight button reraising an UTG raiser. I think you can fold here.

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 

The pot's offering 4:1 immediate odds, 5:1 if shorty comes in. If he shoves, that puts button to a decision before I have to decide (I would fold if button played). I only considered folding at all because of the volatile short stack behind me. The real consideration in my mind is calling for set value in a four way pot or trying to play some poker after the flop. 4-betting is probably awful here, though, and I don't see anyone advocating that.

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 

This is a -EV call/4 bet against these players. Why get into a pot when you know your at best a 54% favorite? This is a cash game not a tourny right?

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 

Because his 3-bet was too small and a fourth player came in giving me excellent odds to hit a set and stack someone with a very strong second best hand. I certainly don't want to play for stacks unimproved with this guy, though.

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 

You can't fold here. Period.

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 

Folding here would be hilariously bad.

Even if you just play for set value you can call here.

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 

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Folding here would be hilariously bad.

Even if you just play for set value you can call here.

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Call and play for a set. Just be careful not to get in over your head if the flop is all lower than tens. If you decide to play for set value, then either b/f or some other line (i.e. c/c followed by b/f; or just c/f if button is really tight) rather than stack off with your "overpair" post flop OOP with no set and all low cards on the flop vs a tight button reraiser. I played with a guy tonight in a hand just like this where he had QQ like you and I had KK on the button. I stacked him post flop when he c/r'ed me all-in on a rainbow flop all lower than tens. The action was remarkably similar to this one except it was 5/5 with 600 effective stacks (and I reraised quite a bit more preflop than button did here).

I think folding would be bad. And I think reraising would be bad. So call and proceed with caution if you miss your set.

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 

Call for set value

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 

[ QUOTE ]
Call for set value

[/ QUOTE ]seems pretty standard IMO.

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($133.25)
MP2 ($29.25)
MP3 ($18.25)
CO ($49)
Button ($73.90)
SB ($55.40)
BB ($83.45)
Hero ($53.70)
UTG+1 ($51.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $6.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $6, Hero calls $4.50, MP3 calls $4.50.

Flop: ($26.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $18</font>, BB folds, Hero folds, MP3 calls $11.75 (All-In).

Turn: ($49.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($49.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $49.75

I was pretty much check/folding all non-Queen flops, but I'm ahead here pretty much never, right?

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 

Yeah i think flop is a good fold. It is not as likely that he cbets with AK in a multiway pot with a short stacker.

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 

Preflop fold is horrible, call. Good fold on the flop.

Re: QQ RR 4-ways preflop; 50NL
 

nh, sir.