MTT\'ers... what is your edge?
 

Let me preface this by saying this is *sort of* a strategy post, but since it's such a general subject about MTT's in general - I thought it fit in MTTc better. Obviously a mod may move this if they see fit.

I have been playing MTTs with some seriousness for a few months now. Despite good results, I still find myself wondering what exactly makes me better than most of the players in the field (if anything at all).

As far as the question I'm trying to propose for this thread, here goes:

What makes you better than most of your MTT opponents?

The obvious answers would be "experience, understanding, discipline, ect..." but I'm asking on a more specific level. Some things that come to mind are [aggression, correct pushbotting strategies, employment of +EV moves, exploiting bubbles, attentiveness of playing styles].

I'm mostly interested in responses from mid-to-high stakes MTT'ers who feel they have a distinct edge over the opposition. Small-stakes players are of course welcome to reply, but I think it's fairly obvious that there are massive edges due to a majority of the field simply lacking basic poker understanding.

So if you can think of even one or two 'specific edges' you have over the competition, please express what they are (along with the level of buy-in you play).

(I'm mostly asking this quesiton because I find it difficult to play multiple tables while playing well)

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Boomswitch

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We don't make incorrect preflop calls with hands where we're only proceeding if I make a certain hand.

We don't bloat pots with one pair hands unless we're willing to put all the money in.

We find spots to get chips, not use our cards to get chips.

We run really really good.

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are you talking about what makes you better than the other players in the field who are beating the field, or the field as a whole?

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A product of making less mistakes than others and exploiting bad players better than others.

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nm, its boomswitch.

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Drugs


Edit: lol at the responses and people who responded so far

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for some people, both sides are heads

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Everyone else sucks, seriously... I just got into playing a ton of MTT's and even most of the good/ranked players suck...

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When I play on Absolute I can see everyone's cards. That usually helps a little.

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I have a "go big or go home" attitude. Everyone remembers Babe as the home run KING, but what many people do not know is that along with the home run record, Babe also held the record for most strikeouts!

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For a concise explanation thats spot on, i merely suck less than most others.

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are you talking about what makes you better than the other players in the field who are beating the field, or the field as a whole?

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I guess beating the field as a whole. Obviously you don't have to be the #1 player in the field to be a winner ('cept HU)

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For a concise explanation thats spot on, i merely suck less than most others.

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At what point does it require more than simply "not sucking"? Does it require more than not sucking to be profitable in the Super Tuesday or Stars 109r?

When I only play 1 tournament, I'm able to quickly and accurately gather reads, enabling me to make better decisions. Yet when I'm playing 4-6 tournys at once, I still make what should be considered "good" decisions.

Also, when I play 1 tournament I find it easy to pick spots to make moves when neccessary (such as who to resteal on) regardless of my cards. But when I play several, I am simply lost and w/o reads, and probably just auto-fold in these potentially profitable spots.

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Dealt to Tîmex [Ah Kc]
Tîmex: raises 4825 to 7825
RandALLin: raises 16625 to 24450
Tîmex: raises 152699 to 177149 and is all-in
RandALLin: calls 94900 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [Ad]

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We don't make incorrect preflop calls with hands where we're only proceeding if I make a certain hand.

We don't bloat pots with one pair hands unless we're willing to put all the money in.

We find spots to get chips, not use our cards to get chips.

We run really really good.

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all of this (although I haven't figured out the 'run really good' part yet), plus most people completely ignore position despite it being probably the most important thing to consider when making a preflop decision.

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Dealt to Tîmex [Ah Kc]
Tîmex: raises 4825 to 7825
RandALLin: raises 16625 to 24450
Tîmex: raises 152699 to 177149 and is all-in
RandALLin: calls 94900 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [Ad]

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poor randal [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I don't play a lot of MTT's, but I figured the most important thing is a chip stack.

Instead of playing your cards, play your chip stack.

You might think villain is bluffing, but you can't call because if you are wrong, you are out for example.

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straight

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I don't play a lot of MTT's, but I figured the most important thing is a chip stack.

Instead of playing your cards, play your chip stack.

You might think villain is bluffing, but you can't call because if you are wrong, you are out for example.

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lol

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I don't play a lot of MTT's, but I figured the most important thing is a chip stack.

Instead of playing your cards, play your chip stack.

You might think villain is bluffing, but you can't call because if you are wrong, you are out for example.

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Print it. Bind it. Sell it.

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volcano

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wow, you are such a postwhore. but, at least, you can play poker. teach me 5nl 6max, plzkthx.

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What do most players in, say, the daily 100k on stars understand about poker? I assume that almost all of them have a reasonable understanding about PF hand strengths, will make positional considerations, pushbotting strategies, understand the different between a steal/value raise. That a lot of them understand the concept and math behind resteals. They realize the power of aggression and use it to at least some extent. They will pick up on obvious abusing of their blinds, and other easy 'reads'.

Does this sound reasonable or am I giving them too much credit?

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too much credit

half the field probably needs help getting dressed in the morning

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LOL

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What do most players in, say, the daily 100k on stars understand about poker? I assume that almost all of them have a reasonable understanding about PF hand strengths, will make positional considerations, pushbotting strategies, understand the different between a steal/value raise. That a lot of them understand the concept and math behind resteals. They realize the power of aggression and use it to at least some extent. They will pick up on obvious abusing of their blinds, and other easy 'reads'.

Does this sound reasonable or am I giving them too much credit?

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lol, have you ever played the 100k?

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I think it's a combination of having good buds, a working volcano, and easy accessibility to the grinder after a bad beat so that you forget about the hand within 2 minutes instead of tilting out.

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most of the field in any tournament simply sucks... they make bad decision pf,flop,turn, and river.

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We don't make incorrect preflop calls with hands where we're only proceeding if I make a certain hand.

We don't bloat pots with one pair hands unless we're willing to put all the money in.

We find spots to get chips, not use our cards to get chips.

We run really really good.

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and we read 2p2!