NL 400 - What does Vilain has here?
 

I dont know vilain only played 10-15 hands against him so far no big pot...
$2.00/$4.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:56:41 - 2007/09/18
Seat 1: vilain ($411.00)
Seat 2: LSP16 ($386.00)
LSP16 posts the small blind of $2.00
vilain posts the big blind of $4.00
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to LSP16[7h 6c]
LSP16 raises to $12.00
vilain calls $8.00
*** FLOP *** [7s 4d Th]
vilain checks
LSP16 bets $15.00
vilain calls $15.00
*** TURN *** [7s 4d Th] [5h]
vilain checks
LSP16 bets $30.00
vilain calls $30.00
*** RIVER *** [7s 4d Th 5h] [Ad]
vilain bets $64.00

Re: NL 400 - What does Vilain has here?
 

Check behind on river, he's clearly shown he likes his hand, you've charged a draw completely and your hand has a lot of showdown value.

Not really sure what he has. A better 7, a weak T? PP like 88... his range is pretty big.

Re: NL 400 - What does Vilain has here?
 

actually I cant cechk... he cold call every street OOP and he is betting half pot here on the river...

no draw has hit. which hand could he be playing like this if he is decent (which I suppose he is)

Re: NL 400 - What does Vilain has here?
 

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actually I cant cechk... he cold call every street OOP and he is betting half pot here on the river...

no draw has hit. which hand could he be playing like this if he is decent (which I suppose he is)

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Oh sorry, I totally missed the action.

I'm not sure what villain has but this is a fold this early in a match.

Re: NL 400 - What does Vilain has here?
 

Ah xh

or A6o
or a bluff or any of those hands lj said

Re: NL 400 - What does Vilain has here?
 

I thinks there is only 2 options here

- A-7, A-10
OR
- 8-9

Ah seems pretty unlikely unless its A-4h

Re: NL 400 - What does Vilain has here?
 

a8/a6/a2/a3 as well - you'd be amazed at how many people will call a 2nd barrel with 1 over + GS. Honestly I think an ace is a huge part of his range and you really can't call here.

Re: NL 400 - What does Vilain has here?
 

Thank for the input... I did not think a decent player could call gut shot on 2/3 pot bet on turn....

Re: NL 400 - What does Vilain has here?
 

I did use all my time bank... to finnally call him down and he did show 8-9 ...

Re: NL 400 - What does Vilain has here?
 

This is one of those impossible to answer because we aren't there hands.

Re: NL 400 - What does Vilain has here?
 

Does anyone think checking the turn for pot control (and to preserve our outs) is viable?