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urbanati 09-18-2007 02:23 PM

So lost on the river with bottom set...
 
Villain is 21/15/2.1.
I felt there was no good play right there...
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
urbanati: $239.00
CO: $123.70
Button: $228.05
SB: $196.45
BB: $172.10

Pre-flop: (5 players) urbanati is UTG with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">urbanati raises to $6</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($25, 4 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">urbanati bets $20</font>, CO folds, Button calls, BB calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($85, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">urbanati bets $65</font>, Button calls, BB folds.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($215, 2 players)
urbanati...

gs3737 09-18-2007 02:33 PM

Re: So lost on the river with bottom set...
 
All-in

MYNAMEIZGREG 09-18-2007 02:33 PM

Re: So lost on the river with bottom set...
 
What were BB/SB stats?

urbanati 09-18-2007 02:38 PM

Re: So lost on the river with bottom set...
 
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What were BB/SB stats?

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29/6/1

hotbacon 09-18-2007 02:45 PM

Re: So lost on the river with bottom set...
 
all you can eat

MYNAMEIZGREG 09-18-2007 02:48 PM

Re: So lost on the river with bottom set...
 
What about SB?

terp 09-18-2007 02:48 PM

Re: So lost on the river with bottom set...
 
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Stack sizes:
urbanati: $239.00


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River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($215, 2 players)
urbanati...

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So lost on the river with bottom set...


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urbanati 09-18-2007 02:57 PM

Re: So lost on the river with bottom set...
 
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What about SB?

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he folded

Nielsio 09-18-2007 03:02 PM

Re: So lost on the river with bottom set...
 
Just bet $100 and hope to get called by TT.

jfreels 09-18-2007 03:14 PM

Re: So lost on the river with bottom set...
 
c/r ai

shpanko 09-18-2007 03:19 PM

Re: So lost on the river with bottom set...
 
He might not v-bet 9x so I'm shoving here. Sure we don't give diamonds a chance to bluff but I'd rather let him make a bad call then expect this guy to bluff.

jfreels 09-18-2007 03:21 PM

Re: So lost on the river with bottom set...
 
I don't see the button showing up with 9x here ever the way the action went

shpanko 09-18-2007 03:26 PM

Re: So lost on the river with bottom set...
 
what about a scared 98 or a scared TT/JJ? Those both seem plausible.

jfreels are you worried about being behind here because I certainly am not. The only question is whether we think he'll bluff more / value bet worse when checked to or if he'll call more with worse hands.

Unknown Soldier 09-18-2007 03:28 PM

Re: So lost on the river with bottom set...
 
just shove/bet w/e makes sense w/ pot and stacks

jfreels 09-18-2007 03:33 PM

Re: So lost on the river with bottom set...
 
i think he's definitely ahead here the majority of the time, I just see more value in letting him bluff a worse hand here (maybe its just the games I've been playing in recently)

13_Xerxes 09-18-2007 03:43 PM

Re: So lost on the river with bottom set...
 
How can you ask this question vs a calling station ?

I shove before the river is dealt...

Gorgi24 09-18-2007 03:59 PM

Re: So lost on the river with bottom set...
 
I think you should shove here, his range is wide , he might even have an overpair.


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