25NL - AKo - TPTK - Facing Donkbet
 

no special reads on villian, couple of hands ... 40/30 ... so he seemed to be loose!

i thought, my only choice is to shove (what if i just call?)... folding is def. to weak .. what does his preflop call mean?! QQ?! AQ?! .. so it was kinda odd that he is donking the Ace high flop + the Q ... so JJ is totally out of his range i guess ... but he seemed to be loose and might doing that with JJ/KK to take down the pot.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($42.35)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($29.45)</font>
Button ($27.60)
SB ($20)
<font color="#C00000">BB ($25.60)</font>

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $2.75, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($9.10) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $5</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ????


[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Re: 25NL - AKo - TPTK - Facing Donkbet
 

you've hit your cards. push.

[i]edit: yeah, call. i make this same mistake of pushing here, but call and see what happens on the turn.

Re: 25NL - AKo - TPTK - Facing Donkbet
 

Call

Re: 25NL - AKo - TPTK - Facing Donkbet
 

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you've hit your cards. push.

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ok ... thats what i thought

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Call

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why?! ...

Re: 25NL - AKo - TPTK - Facing Donkbet
 

I push this.

Re: 25NL - AKo - TPTK - Facing Donkbet
 

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Call

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why?! ...

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because if villain is weak, you'll lose her by pushing. if villain is strong you just gave away your stack.

Re: 25NL - AKo - TPTK - Facing Donkbet
 

Shovel.

Re: 25NL - AKo - TPTK - Facing Donkbet
 

ok we just call ...

what if he bets the turn again?! 1/2 pot - 2/3 pot or even Pot

fold and shout 'OMG' and punch the screen?

Re: 25NL - AKo - TPTK - Facing Donkbet
 

By calling you make him:

Bet his weaker holdings.
Bluff.
Use your positional advantage.
See if his aggression continues on turn which can save you your stack.



You raised, he shoved, you call, he showed you 2pair and you screamed ?

Re: 25NL - AKo - TPTK - Facing Donkbet
 

Call

Re: 25NL - AKo - TPTK - Facing Donkbet
 

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ok we just call ...

what if he bets the turn again?! 1/2 pot - 2/3 pot or even Pot

fold and shout 'OMG' and punch the screen?

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Then its decision time, he's trying to build a big pot.


Questions to ask:
Is villan aggro?
Does he stack off with 1 pair?
Does he think on 2nd level?
Does he even hand read?

Re: 25NL - AKo - TPTK - Facing Donkbet
 

ok the majority here says call ... i'll notice that and thank you for your helpful replies

i shoved [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Hero raises all-in to $26.45</font>, BB calls all-in for $17.60
Uncalled bet of $3.85 returned to Hero
Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to BB

Turn: ($54.30) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($54.30) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $54.30 ($2.70 Rake)

BB had 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Sixes) and WON (+$26.00)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$25.60)

Re: 25NL - AKo - TPTK - Facing Donkbet
 

generally, leading out with a small bet on the flop = weakness. whereas, leading out with a big bet = gimme ur stack, foo. it's hard not to shove this flop. it's a leak that i have, too, but you really need to just call and reevaluate after villain's action on the turn.

Re: 25NL - AKo - TPTK - Facing Donkbet
 

66 is so unreal :-(

damn happens ... [x] stacked off with one pair

Re: 25NL - AKo - TPTK - Facing Donkbet
 

I actually think 66 is a huge part of his range, so is AQo/AQs but since Ax is also a call is better.

You could argue a instant fold, but that would need a read.

Re: 25NL - AKo - TPTK - Facing Donkbet
 

huge read :-)

Re: 25NL - AKo - TPTK - Facing Donkbet
 

Not strictly a donkbet since he was last aggressor preflop.

My guess at preflop range would be AA-22, AK, AQ (AA, KK and AQ borderline if he knows what he's doing). Without a read could you realistically put him on Axs? c-bet on flop? Could be, but into two preflop raisers? On the flop, I'd put him on QQ, 66, AQ or possibly A6s.

I just don't see enough within his range I want to play against. Random A, Q? Am I giving villain too much credit here?

Re: 25NL - AKo - TPTK - Facing Donkbet
 

Make it $17