CardPlayer claim about Annette 15
 

CardPlayer says
"Obrestad has already achieved a cult following in Internet poker circles. She is an extremely successful online player who continues to amaze the online railbirds with her play (she recently won a 180-person sit-and-go without looking at her holecards the entire tine)."
Where is the evidence for this statement? It seems to wild to be true.

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david koresh cult or hachem's aussie, aussie, aussie, oy, oy, oy cult?

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It is true, she used the superuser account and looked at her opponent's cards instead.

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Apparently it's true. She admitted to peaking once. Scroll down and you'll see the interview in English.

web page

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It is wild and true.
Link.

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How do you not look? They're right there, you can't cover them.

edit: unless you recentre yourself at the table. Huh. Mm. Oh.

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You've been regged for so long and still you don't know the answer will be: just [censored] goole it. i did and found it right away.

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Very true I played it vs her

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Very true I played it vs her

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don't you just feel a little stupid about that?

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Wow only look at the card once and win 180 SNG.

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Not putting her down but you cant win a 180 man tournament even looking at your cards without being lucky. To win without looking at your cards you need to be extremely lucky (no matter how well you play).

She might have done this 3000 times before she was succesful.

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I believe it...the fact that she's female, 18, and sick good makes for a perfect recipe for a cult following. Heck my finance is really into her, watching every tournament she's in

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Not putting her down but you cant win a 180 man tournament even looking at your cards without being lucky. To win without looking at your cards you need to be extremely lucky (no matter how well you play).

She might have done this 3000 times before she was succesful.

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this was a $4 sng, people play terrible enough where I think Annette has a positive ROI without looking at her cards.

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Not putting her down but you cant win a 180 man tournament even looking at your cards without being lucky. To win without looking at your cards you need to be extremely lucky (no matter how well you play).

She might have done this 3000 times before she was succesful.

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this was a $4 sng, people play terrible enough where I think Annette has a positive ROI without looking at her cards.

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I once multitabled 15 of these 4/180s looking at my cards when I was running bad. Took 2 1st places, a 3rd, and a 6th.

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Not putting her down but you cant win a 180 man tournament even looking at your cards without being lucky. To win without looking at your cards you need to be extremely lucky (no matter how well you play).

She might have done this 3000 times before she was succesful.

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this was a $4 sng, people play terrible enough where I think Annette has a positive ROI without looking at her cards.

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I once multitabled 15 of these 4/180s looking at my cards when I was running bad. Took 2 1st places, a 3rd, and a 6th.

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yeah thats really running bad!

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She peeked one time at here hole cards during the tourney...

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How do you not look? They're right there, you can't cover them.

edit: unless you recentre yourself at the table. Huh. Mm. Oh.

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New inventions paper and tape seem to work. These things are probably just a fad like pet rocks though, won't be around very long I suspect.

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The late tournament play in these is extremely weak/tight. Of course you can resteal without looking at your cards. I guess it is a good excercize for bluffing and playing situations.

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What's a finance?

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I once multitabled 15 of these 4/180s looking at my cards when I was running bad. Took 2 1st places, a 3rd, and a 6th.

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betgo cmon

I hope you mean you were running bad, thus decided to blow off steam in those

of course these tourneys are unbelievably soft, but you dont run bad and place like you did in 4 consecutive tourneys

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How do you not look? They're right there, you can't cover them.

edit: unless you recentre yourself at the table. Huh. Mm. Oh.

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New inventions paper and tape seem to work. These things are probably just a fad like pet rocks though, won't be around very long I suspect.

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Yeah, I should probably edit my post to reflect that realisation.

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I once multitabled 15 of these 4/180s looking at my cards when I was running bad. Took 2 1st places, a 3rd, and a 6th.

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betgo cmon

I hope you mean you were running bad, thus decided to blow off steam in those

of course these tourneys are unbelievably soft, but you dont run bad and place like you did in 4 consecutive tourneys

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Betgo wrote,

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I once multitabled 15 of these 4/180s looking at my cards when I was running bad. Took 2 1st places, a 3rd, and a 6th.

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You thought he wrote,



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I once multitabled 15 of these 4/180s looking at my cards, Took 2 1st places, a 3rd, and a 6th when I was running bad.

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I once multitabled 15 of these 4/180s looking at my cards when I was running bad. Took 2 1st places, a 3rd, and a 6th.

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betgo cmon

I hope you mean you were running bad, thus decided to blow off steam in those

of course these tourneys are unbelievably soft, but you dont run bad and place like you did in 4 consecutive tourneys

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I read it as he 15 tabled BECAUSE he was running bad. Also, the blind tourny thing was posted in BBV a while back with the HH in some player that I watched. It happened. If she was looking at her cards she ignored them as they had nothing to do with her course of action.

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I can believe this claim, Scott Fishman used to do the same thing in cash games to make himself better. He would put some tape over the spot the holecards would be and play his position and image very strongly. He prolly did it at low stakes though.

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CardPlayer says
"Obrestad has already achieved a cult following in Internet poker circles. She is an extremely successful online player who continues to amaze the online railbirds with her play (she recently won a 180-person sit-and-go without looking at her holecards the entire tine)."
Where is the evidence for this statement? It seems to wild to be true.

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she also recently partook in a 180-person orgy without anyone looking at her face the entire time

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There were 179 winners

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Not putting her down but you cant win a 180 man tournament even looking at your cards without being lucky. To win without looking at your cards you need to be extremely lucky (no matter how well you play).

She might have done this 3000 times before she was succesful.

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You also have to be lucky to win one of these WHILE looking at your cards, too.

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Chances are the story is bullshiit.

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to clarify, i am not OP.

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I can believe this claim

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The hand history is up on PokerXFactor. It's very believable: I didn't finish it, but I looked through the first 1/2 or 2/3rds of it or so. It is quite obvious that she didn't peek at her cards. For instance, she open-folded AA once (UTG, IIRC), and folded KK twice, once when it was limped to her in LP, once in the SB when it was folded to the button, who made a standard raise.

She was very aggressive on steal / re-steal situations, of course. And she got lucky a couple of times when she won a 35/65 or 40/60 AIPF situation, having pot-committed herself with a raise that was re-raised all-in, having a junk hand.

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I don't know if anyone's done this before, but I've evaluated how lucky Annette is in this video.

She's all-in versus a larger stack with the worst of it 4 times (and wins them all obviously):

97o vs 66 = 46.22%
J4s vs AKo = 32.31%
J7o vs AKs = 32.04%
J5o vs A8o = 36.55%

The chances of he winning all of these is 1.7%.

Even if she tried it 50 times with these odds, she still only has a 59% chance of winning all of these all-ins at least once in those 50 attempts.

There's a lot of other luck involved, e.g. the chances that the other players didn't turn up with a hand that could call her river shoves at the final table, but that's too hard to evaluate.

After pulling off a more than 50:1 shot with the all-ins, the chances of everything else going her must way be fairly slim, so I'd guess she must have attempted this at least a couple of hundred times to get this result. Obviously she plays with a lot of skill, but even playing with an infinite amount of skill, the chances of pulling this off must still be much less than 1%.

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After pulling off a more than 50:1 shot with the all-ins, the chances of everything else going her must way be fairly slim,

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try again

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Good aggressive players get allin preflop at a disadvantage.

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I was playing on Bodog tonight and had a sudden software glitch- i couldn't see my cards or the flop on a table where I was playing HU.

I decided to keep playing for awhile as opponent was weak and mostly folding anyways.

First postflop hand- I raise on button to 33, he reraises to 100, I call.

He bets 145 on flop, i make it 425, he folds.

Turns out I had A10 and had flopped top pair on 1095 board.

Hand 2: I raise to 33, he calls. We check all the way to the river, where he bets pot and I fold.

Board was 77Q89

Turns out I had 79 for the boat. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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After pulling off a more than 50:1 shot with the all-ins, the chances of everything else going her must way be fairly slim,

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try again

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Explain

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She's all-in versus a larger stack with the worst of it 4 times (and wins them all obviously):

97o vs 66 = 46.22%
J4s vs AKo = 32.31%
J7o vs AKs = 32.04%
J5o vs A8o = 36.55%

The chances of he winning all of these is 1.7%.

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You do realize that coming out on top as favorite in all the hands above is only 15-something %, right?. 15 is still better than 2 (obv), but it's not like it's a lock.

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Ya but lose just one (98.3% chance) and she's out, that's the point.

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How is it even possible to be this consistently lucky?

Really...?

Winning a 180-sng without seeing the hole cards... unreal...

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she posted the HH onto pokerxfactor.com

tell me if this link doesnt work

i watched it, right on hand 4 she open folds KK, same with hand 100. AQ is folded a time or two...77 open folded with 13 blinds. hand 234 she folds AK on the button.

it can seem kinda unreal cause she played most of her premium hands...