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Texter 09-14-2007 04:45 PM

Go Pro? advice from Sbrugby
 
[ QUOTE ]
PokerLizard: So what if somebody you knew wanted to drop out of college and play poker? What would you tell them?

Townsend: Go for it.

PokerLizard: You're the first person to ever say that.

Townsend: I mean, you know it's not going to be easy. You're not just going to magically be making millions of dollars a day but if you work hard and you work on your game you can definitely succeed in this industry. There's a lot of money to be made. So I would say go for it and if it doesn't work out it doesn't work out.

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from: Brian Townsend Interview

It's usually...don't do it...graduate first so you have something to fall back on, or if you have what it takes to play poker you can make much more in business. His view is kind of refreshing.

selurah 09-14-2007 04:49 PM

Re: Go Pro? advice from Sbrugby
 
I wouldn't expect a guy who has made millions and set himself up for life, at such a young age, by playing poker to say anything else.

CardSharpCook 09-14-2007 04:59 PM

Re: Go Pro? advice from Sbrugby
 
college is fun. Poker is not. Poker will always be there. College is not as fun when you're 25 and everyone else is 18-22

jono 09-14-2007 05:01 PM

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college is fun. Poker is not. Poker will always be there. College is not as fun when you're 25 and everyone else is 18-22

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truth.

HedonismBot 09-14-2007 05:08 PM

Re: Go Pro? advice from Sbrugby
 
The correct advice is to say don't do it because if its really right for someone and they're ready they will go for it regardless

king_of_drafts 09-14-2007 05:12 PM

Re: Go Pro? advice from Sbrugby
 
Townsend: Yeah. It's kind of funny. Last summer I came out and I brought maybe $100,000.00, which is a lot of money for me. And I did really well one night — a quarter million or even more when I was playing some 200/400 no-limit. And a lot of the live pros were just giving me [censored]. Nobody knew who I was. They were just generally just [censored]. One guy challenged me to a heads up, freeze out, dick waving competition, bring a million dollars, whole thing. And then this summer I come out and he's like, "Oh, can I have a loan?" And he was totally sucking up to me and you just gotta realize some people are like that and deal with it accordingly.

[censored] awesome

Alobar 09-14-2007 05:14 PM

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college is fun. Poker is not. Poker will always be there. College is not as fun when you're 25 and everyone else is 18-22

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you dont have to be in college tho to have just as much fun as any other college kid, you just have to some social skills and some friends

luckyjimm 09-14-2007 05:17 PM

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Townsend: Yeah. It's kind of funny. Last summer I came out and I brought maybe $100,000.00, which is a lot of money for me. And I did really well one night — a quarter million or even more when I was playing some 200/400 no-limit. And a lot of the live pros were just giving me [censored]. Nobody knew who I was. They were just generally just [censored]. One guy challenged me to a heads up, freeze out, dick waving competition, bring a million dollars, whole thing. And then this summer I come out and he's like, "Oh, can I have a loan?" And he was totally sucking up to me and you just gotta realize some people are like that and deal with it accordingly.

[censored] awesome

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Would that be A Cool Million?

beanie 09-14-2007 05:18 PM

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why is it rarely mentioned that you can do both?

MURK 09-14-2007 05:20 PM

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why is it rarely mentioned that you can do both?

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yeah, seriously. I never went to college or anyting like that but how much of your time does it honestly take up?

DLizzle 09-14-2007 05:52 PM

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college is fun. Poker is not. Poker will always be there. College is not as fun when you're 25 and everyone else is 18-22

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you dont have to be in college tho to have just as much fun as any other college kid, you just have to some social skills and some friends

[/ QUOTE ]

100% agree. College, as in actual college and not the stuff that comes with it, is not fun. You can get the other stuff easily without going to college.

I find poker fun and I suspect anyone that would be able to do it as a living and be very successful would too.

So to say college is fun and poker is not is pretty backwards imo.

rocketsfan4lyfe 09-14-2007 05:54 PM

Re: Go Pro? advice from Sbrugby
 
go to college, get a degree, make money on a consistent basis, that is the way to go

DLizzle 09-14-2007 05:55 PM

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why is it rarely mentioned that you can do both?

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yeah, seriously. I never went to college or anyting like that but how much of your time does it honestly take up?

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it doesn't have to take up much if you don't want it to, but you probably won't get that much out of it if you don't put in the time. Going to school while playing poker is not advisable. You will probably do mediocre in both, or bad in one and ok in another, in my personal experience. I agree with Brian on this one.

jtown1010 09-14-2007 06:04 PM

Re: Go Pro? advice from Sbrugby
 
I dropped out of college at 19 and went back at 24, it wasn't that bad but I look young so people don't ask me to buy them beer or anything.

bsidensol 09-14-2007 06:22 PM

Re: Go Pro? advice from Sbrugby
 
I'd say go the college route, that way you can study game theory and learn how to make aggressive calls.

Ironic 09-14-2007 06:23 PM

Re: Go Pro? advice from Sbrugby
 
Do many people play more than 4 hours of poker a day anyway? Doing both should be achievable I think. The only difficulty would be at the end of the year around exam time from my perspective. I would have to stop playing for 3 weeks so I can out one hundred percent into the exams but other than that it should be possible to do both I believe.

JDalla 09-14-2007 06:27 PM

Re: Go Pro? advice from Sbrugby
 
it's possible to do both, but college is distracting. I dropped recently and do much better in poker now, as well as get in more hours in.

dropout = profit.

plzleenowhammy 09-14-2007 06:41 PM

Re: Go Pro? advice from Sbrugby
 
There are so many people in college who either don't want to be there or shouldn't be there. It makes sense for those people to focus on other money-making ventures than sinking their money into a college degree.

ImsaKidd 09-14-2007 06:56 PM

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go to college, get a degree, make money on a consistent basis, that is the way to go

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Yeah aba or cts should def. go to school for 4 years to get a job that might pay $100k/year.

SEABEAST 09-14-2007 06:58 PM

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it's pretty obvious that the correct answer is yes for some people and no for others

jackhigh 09-14-2007 06:59 PM

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Trust me. College will be one of the best and EASIEST times of your life. You don't need much money to have fun and the snatch is plentiful!

If you think College is hard... then you are a loser.

Poker is a bore when you are grinding for a living... there are much cooler and more exciting professions to strive for... how about owning/starting a Poker mag? Best of both worlds!

Poker and life in general sucks when you are on a losing streak. Why deal with any "losing streaks" if you don't have to... life is too short!

If you work hard and make the right decisions in life you will almost ALWAYS succeed! Poker can kick your arse big time... even when you hold the Aces! [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

MrBananagrabber 09-14-2007 06:59 PM

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There are so many people in college who either don't want to be there or shouldn't be there. It makes sense for those people to focus on other money-making ventures than sinking their money into a college degree.

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This is crazy. More than anything else, higher education increases your chance of prosperity, whether you're bored by lectures or not. It only makes sense to skip college if you're more concerned about having free time during the next four years than having a comfortable life for the remaining 50+ years.

tannenj 09-14-2007 07:13 PM

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100% agree. College, as in actual college and not the stuff that comes with it, is not fun. You can get the other stuff easily without going to college.

I find poker fun and I suspect anyone that would be able to do it as a living and be very successful would too.

So to say college is fun and poker is not is pretty backwards imo.

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qft

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Trust me. College will be one of the best and EASIEST times of your life. You don't need much money to have fun and the snatch is plentiful!

If you think College is hard... then you are a loser.

Poker is a bore when you are grinding for a living... there are much cooler and more exciting professions to strive for... how about owning/starting a Poker mag? Best of both worlds!

Poker and life in general sucks when you are on a losing streak. Why deal with any "losing streaks" if you don't have to... life is too short!

If you work hard and make the right decisions in life you will almost ALWAYS succeed! Poker can kick your arse big time... even when you hold the Aces!

[/ QUOTE ]

this post is a beat

Daliman 09-14-2007 07:23 PM

Re: Go Pro? advice from Sbrugby
 
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college is fun. Poker is not. Poker will always be there. College is not as fun when you're 25 and everyone else is 18-22

[/ QUOTE ]

Pretty sure that most of the successful poker players that are foregoing college are having a pretty good time too.

jaminbird 09-14-2007 07:29 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
go to college, get a degree, make money on a consistent basis, that is the way to go

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Yeah aba or cts should def. go to school for 4 years to get a job that might pay $50k/year.

[/ QUOTE ]

Not many people make much more then that at their first job out of college. If you do then you are one of the lucky ones.

Crazy Porto 09-14-2007 07:38 PM

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solid advice didn't need him to tell me that tough

Texter 09-14-2007 08:10 PM

Re: Go Pro? advice from Sbrugby
 
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Townsend: Yeah. It's kind of funny. Last summer I came out and I brought maybe $100,000.00, which is a lot of money for me. And I did really well one night — a quarter million or even more when I was playing some 200/400 no-limit. And a lot of the live pros were just giving me [censored]. Nobody knew who I was. They were just generally just [censored]. One guy challenged me to a heads up, freeze out, dick waving competition, bring a million dollars, whole thing. And then this summer I come out and he's like, "Oh, can I have a loan?" And he was totally sucking up to me and you just gotta realize some people are like that and deal with it accordingly.

[censored] awesome

[/ QUOTE ]

I asked him if it was Matusow...he said no...

JMa 09-14-2007 08:16 PM

Re: Go Pro? advice from Sbrugby
 
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college is fun. Poker is not. Poker will always be there. College is not as fun when you're 25 and everyone else is 18-22

[/ QUOTE ]

look at how profitable poker was say 2yrs ago and look at the state of the games today. poker will not always be as profitable as it was, or even is today.

southerndog 09-14-2007 08:45 PM

Re: Go Pro? advice from Sbrugby
 

Personally, I agree with the do both route. In particular, I'd love to have all that money AND be a college student.

triviatard2 09-14-2007 08:52 PM

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I dropped out of college at 19 and went back at 24, it wasn't that bad but I look young so people don't ask me to buy them beer or anything.

[/ QUOTE ]

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6...4fc3cb3gn2.jpg

I keep getting older, the college chicks just stay the same age.

jackhigh 09-14-2007 09:19 PM

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[ QUOTE ]


100% agree. College, as in actual college and not the stuff that comes with it, is not fun. You can get the other stuff easily without going to college.

I find poker fun and I suspect anyone that would be able to do it as a living and be very successful would too.

So to say college is fun and poker is not is pretty backwards imo.

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qft

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Trust me. College will be one of the best and EASIEST times of your life. You don't need much money to have fun and the snatch is plentiful!

If you think College is hard... then you are a loser.

Poker is a bore when you are grinding for a living... there are much cooler and more exciting professions to strive for... how about owning/starting a Poker mag? Best of both worlds!

Poker and life in general sucks when you are on a losing streak. Why deal with any "losing streaks" if you don't have to... life is too short!

If you work hard and make the right decisions in life you will almost ALWAYS succeed! Poker can kick your arse big time... even when you hold the Aces!

[/ QUOTE ]

this post is a beat

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Not sure what this means... if it means "the truth" then I agree.

jackhigh 09-14-2007 09:20 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
college is fun. Poker is not. Poker will always be there. College is not as fun when you're 25 and everyone else is 18-22

[/ QUOTE ]

Pretty sure that most of the successful poker players that are foregoing college are having a pretty good time too.

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Yeah, all 10 of em!

rothko 09-14-2007 09:37 PM

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college is fun. Poker is not. Poker will always be there. College is not as fun when you're 25 and everyone else is 18-22

[/ QUOTE ]

truth.

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def

snowbank 09-14-2007 09:44 PM

Re: Go Pro? advice from Sbrugby
 
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go to college, get a degree, make money on a consistent basis,retire by 65 that is the way to go

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sounds awesome, lemme know how it works out.

Alobar 09-14-2007 10:18 PM

Re: Go Pro? advice from Sbrugby
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
college is fun. Poker is not. Poker will always be there. College is not as fun when you're 25 and everyone else is 18-22

[/ QUOTE ]

look at how profitable poker was say 2yrs ago and look at the state of the games today. poker will not always be as profitable as it was, or even is today.

[/ QUOTE ]

yes it will, poker will ALWAYS be profitable, it just won't be that way for as many people.

ImsaKidd 09-14-2007 10:33 PM

Re: Go Pro? advice from Sbrugby
 
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[ QUOTE ]
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go to college, get a degree, make money on a consistent basis, that is the way to go

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah aba or cts should def. go to school for 4 years to get a job that might pay $50k/year.

[/ QUOTE ]

Not many people make much more then that at their first job out of college. If you do then you are one of the lucky ones.

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Yeah, Obv. bumped a bit because you get raises or whatever, but a lot of 1/2nl players are making as much as someone a few years out of college.

Oki-Oki 09-14-2007 10:44 PM

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it's pretty obvious that the correct answer is yes for some people and no for others

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PokerAmateur4 09-14-2007 11:04 PM

Re: Go Pro? advice from Sbrugby
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
college is fun. Poker is not. Poker will always be there. College is not as fun when you're 25 and everyone else is 18-22

[/ QUOTE ]

look at how profitable poker was say 2yrs ago and look at the state of the games today. poker will not always be as profitable as it was, or even is today.

[/ QUOTE ]What do you think the top %10 of online players' average hourly was then?

Now?

I think the games evolve and as they do you get better too, so I'm not sure if it was really more profitable then for the average winning player than it is now.

Acein8ter 09-14-2007 11:22 PM

Re: Go Pro? advice from Sbrugby
 
It's just a lot harder to back to school when your 35 and busto... Better off to graduate, then take chances in life.

badatmath 09-14-2007 11:36 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
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100% agree. College, as in actual college and not the stuff that comes with it, is not fun. You can get the other stuff easily without going to college.

I find poker fun and I suspect anyone that would be able to do it as a living and be very successful would too.

So to say college is fun and poker is not is pretty backwards imo.

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qft

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Trust me. College will be one of the best and EASIEST times of your life. You don't need much money to have fun and the snatch is plentiful!

If you think College is hard... then you are a loser.

Poker is a bore when you are grinding for a living... there are much cooler and more exciting professions to strive for... how about owning/starting a Poker mag? Best of both worlds!

Poker and life in general sucks when you are on a losing streak. Why deal with any "losing streaks" if you don't have to... life is too short!

If you work hard and make the right decisions in life you will almost ALWAYS succeed! Poker can kick your arse big time... even when you hold the Aces!

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this post is a beat

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Not sure what this means... if it means "the truth" then I agree.

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You must have gotten a job after college.


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