Two Plus Two Newer Archives

Two Plus Two Newer Archives (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/index.php)
-   STT Strategy (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=38)
-   -   22$ - difficult bubble hand (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=500176)

sence25 09-13-2007 11:17 AM

22$ - difficult bubble hand
 
Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG (t580)
Button (t1440)
Hero (t4550)
BB (t6930)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]], 5[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]].
[color=Gray]2 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t800) 9[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]], 7[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]], 4[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>
[color=Red]Hero bets t400</font>, BB calls t400.

Turn: (t1600) 4[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>
[color=Red]Hero bets t900</font>, BB calls t900.

River: (t3400) T[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>
Hero checks, [color=Red]BB bets t5230 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t8630

In retrospective, i hate my turnbet.
Should have just called it down.
Is the riverfold too anxious?

I hate to bubble here - but the pot is very big.
I know i should have bet bigger on the flop, but i wanted to keep the pot small/take it down right there.

cardworm 09-13-2007 11:23 AM

Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand
 
I hate both completing 45 o and leading out for half pot size with 3rd pair against the cheap leader as u will get floaded
so often.U are more or less in the money,why challenge the chipleader?
As played I like stacking off though.

CheeseMoney 09-13-2007 11:23 AM

Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand
 
Fold Preflop FTW

darinvg 09-13-2007 11:25 AM

Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand
 
Definitely fold PF.
As played I like the flop and turn but I don't think I can fold the river.

sence25 09-13-2007 11:26 AM

Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand
 
Cliffnote: i had openfolded my SB several times into him and thought this might be a cheap opportunity to minbet flop/take the pot with a nice risk/reward-ratio.
It doesn't matter what my cards are, if i want to shut down after resistance here.
That's why i hate hitting trips on the turn.

auc hincloss 09-13-2007 11:27 AM

Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand
 
you've done your nut.

RexWoo 09-13-2007 11:29 AM

Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand
 
Fold preflop.

He never had you beat here but of course it's tricky with the 2 short stack.

I like the flop &amp; turn bet. I'd probably bet again on the river.
[EDIT] and call as played

yellowfish 09-13-2007 11:30 AM

Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand
 
Fold Preflop, As played bet 600 on the flop, Shut down if called and a blank comes. Bet more on the turn with the intention of pushing river.

Hard to put bb on a 4, and you did check to him on the river, 9 10 and 10 7 are a big part of his range. You are getting over 2 to 1 and have a third of your stack in. If he has 6 8 or a boat pay him off.

sence25 09-13-2007 11:32 AM

Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand
 
*sighs* yeah, i used my whole timebank and autofolded then.
wow, this must have been the most awful hand i played in a while lol

LuckyJohn 09-13-2007 11:33 AM

Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand
 
I will fold it pf, because i definitely don't want to play with chip leader when there are 1.5BB and 4BB guys. I will check flop. I play like a rock in such situation.

jetlag99 09-13-2007 11:47 AM

Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand
 
Yes, this is very easy fold preflop.

Cixelsyd23 09-13-2007 12:52 PM

Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
Yes, this is very easy fold preflop.

[/ QUOTE ]

Agreed, why do you want to play a junk hand out of position against the chip leader on the bubble?

I think shoving is better than completing here but between the three choices def a fold

dtysiak 09-13-2007 12:59 PM

Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand
 
def a fold especially when the short stack is about to become the bb, no need to risk going broke when it's highly likely the short stack is going out on the next hand or two.

sence25 09-13-2007 01:10 PM

Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand
 
shoving would be awful here...
i just wanted to complete minbet and thought he might fold in like 60% just because i didn't complete any hand before.
the way the hand evolved is very strange, but shoving would be huge -ev.

koreanzulu 09-13-2007 01:15 PM

Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand
 
fold fold fold pf pf pf

Cixelsyd23 09-13-2007 01:31 PM

Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
shoving would be awful here...
i just wanted to complete minbet and thought he might fold in like 60% just because i didn't complete any hand before.
the way the hand evolved is very strange, but shoving would be huge -ev.

[/ QUOTE ]

yes shoving is bad, but its better than completing because at least you eliminate the positional disadvantage, I was mainly saying that to point out that its an easy fold

KCW12 09-13-2007 02:06 PM

Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand
 
pf I would fold, but if you do call, you have to be willing to let it go if you don't hit the flop hard. Either bet more on the flop to take it down, or check/fold. A minbet isn't going to push him off a draw or middle/top pair.

sence25 09-13-2007 02:12 PM

Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand
 
for the record: i know, that 45o ain't no monster.
but for the play that i wanted to make, my cards didn't even matter.
*sigh*
please, stop telling me that one should fold 45o preflop.
i know it now...

sbj 09-13-2007 02:42 PM

Re: 22$ - difficult bubble hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
one should fold 45o preflop.

[/ QUOTE ]


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:16 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.