Please sir, can I have some more?
 

So I had a job interview this morning that I think went fairly well. However, during the interview they referred to the position as an 'entry level' position several times, which threw me off- I've been in purchasing for 10 years, and the position I would be taking would be a step up from my current position, which is 4 steps up from where I began 10 years ago. I ended up asking for $10K less than I actually thought I could get, worried that I may price myself out of the opportunity.

So the question is, should I get offered the job, how can I go about upping my salary request? Any success stories doing this?

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Pretty sure you can't up your salary request without them telling you to [censored] off.

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Start by asking them for their definition of "entry level". I think you guys are speaking a different language.

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you should have clarified things in the interview

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stockboy at circle k doesn't count as 'purchasing' experience.

maybe this really is entry level.

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How is an entry level position four steps ahead of anything?

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When I stress the term "entry-level" when I'm hiring someone it means I'm not paying very much and I expect the person to do whatever I ask, like answer phones, make coffee, etc.

OP you have screwed the pooch salary-wise.

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So the question is, should I get offered the job, how can I go about upping my salary request? Any success stories doing this?

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By the way, this is another reason a recruiter is of value, as they often handle these things and can advise accordingly. Did you not know the range going in? If not then how did you know you could get $10K more?

Anyway, if you're stuck at that figure then ask them how soon you would be eligible for a review/raise. Maybe they can move it up to 3-6 months from a year or wherever it is today. There is nothing wrong with asking for this.

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stockboy at circle k doesn't count as 'purchasing' experience.

maybe this really is entry level.

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Okay, some clarification. I interviewed for an expeditor position 10 years ago, but was hired an assistant buyer (1 level up), then promoted to buyer 9 months later. Then I switched jobs and became a buyer at another company, then was promoted to a purchasing coordinator a few years back. This position would be a procurement manager. As far as I'm concerned, there aren't many positions with 'manager' in them that are 'entry level'.

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"procurement manager":

"Hey, Bill! The office is out of donuts, run out a get a coupla more dozen, eh?"

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"procurement manager":

"Hey, Bill! The office is out of donuts, run out and manage to procure a coupla more dozen, eh?"

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you should have clarified things in the interview

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Yep. Jam on the brakes if anything they say raises a red flag. I would have asked, "Excuse me for interrupting. When you say 'entry-level' what exactly are your expectations for this position?" Then allude to your experience and ask a couple of "fit" type questions - things like "I enjoy being an individual contributor but does the position allow for advancement?" "What would someone in this role be expected to contribute to be considered for the next step?"

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So the question is, should I get offered the job, how can I go about upping my salary request? Any success stories doing this?

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tell them now that you have gone through the interview process and found out more about the job than from the ad you answered (or however you found the job), you realize it is more involved/demanding than initially expected. you'd like the job but need to be compensated for the skills youre able to bring to the position.

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So the question is, should I get offered the job, how can I go about upping my salary request? Any success stories doing this?

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By the way, this is another reason a recruiter is of value, as they often handle these things and can advise accordingly. Did you not know the range going in? If not then how did you know you could get $10K more?

Anyway, if you're stuck at that figure then ask them how soon you would be eligible for a review/raise. Maybe they can move it up to 3-6 months from a year or wherever it is today. There is nothing wrong with asking for this.

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I have 2 recruiters working for me; however, I received this opportunity through a friend of a friend. Unfortunately I didn't have very much specific knowledge of what the job entailed until the interview. I had done some research on my own regarding job titles/specific areas of purchasing. Based on previous research, I believe the average for this field was 10K higher than what I asked for. However, as I think about it, if that's the average, you'd have to assume people starting out in that area would be the ones making up the low end of the spectrum.

Thanks for the advice regarding asking for an early review- that was one idea that had come up. Another:

"x salary is fine; I'm used to a x% bonus based on performance. I'd assume this company is no different?"

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So the question is, should I get offered the job, how can I go about upping my salary request? Any success stories doing this?

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tell them now that you have gone through the interview process and found out more about the job than from the ad you answered (or however you found the job), you realize it is more involved than initially expected. you'd like the job but need to be compensated for the skills youre able to bring to the position.

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Another option, thanks. Do you think it would make sense to contact them before an initial offer, or wait for it?

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Thanks for the advice regarding asking for an early review- that was one idea that had come up. Another:

"x salary is fine; I'm used to a x% bonus based on performance. I'd assume this company is no different?"

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Well, in my experience companies are either going to have this or not, they're loathe to make an exception for someone at a non-executive level, unless they're a really small outfit. So it's something you should know but not something that's probably very negotiable.

Regarding your most recent question, the answer is: ASAP. DEFINITELY before the offer is drafted, it makes it more work for them, less likely that they'll meet your request, and more likely that if you get the job you'll be held under more scrutiny because of the higher wage.

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there's a pretty good thread in EDF about salary negotiation

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Another option, thanks. Do you think it would make sense to contact them before an initial offer, or wait for it?

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I'm hard-pressed to think of the wording I could use in such a "first-strike" effort, that wouldn't get me round-filed for the position.

Wait until they prove they are interested, then start exploring options with them.