AQ, against LAG HU
 

Hey all

Played this hand on a 6max table with only 2 of us left of an initial 4. Villain was loose when there were 3 or 4 or us and we have just gone to heads up. His stats at the time were something like 55/20/2 over 70ish hands.

My play to flop is standard I guess. On the turn I felt I was likely ahead and wanted to give him a chance to bluff. Without any real reads ... (I havent seen him do anything radical) .. is a call on the river +EV?

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
2 players
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Stack sizes:
SB: $175.50
Hero: $396.90

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $6</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $22</font>, SB calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($44, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $32</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($108, 2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($108, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">SB bets $67</font>, Hero ???

Re: AQ, against LAG HU
 

I have a good feeling you'll find a better spot than this to get money in.. you can call for info but it's very thin.

Re: AQ, against LAG HU
 

Think its reasonable to fold here, he could have 22, 66-QQ and got the full house. Maybe 33.

Re: AQ, against LAG HU
 

Could also be vbetting very light with 67 or something... I'd like to at least have a pair against a guy we only have no read on.

Re: AQ, against LAG HU
 

Trivial fold given the low probability of him calling the flop and checking the turn without showdown value to bluff the river.

Re: AQ, against LAG HU
 

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Trivial fold given the low probability of him calling the flop and checking the turn without showdown value to bluff the river.

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Agree with this. Hands w/o showdon value bet the turn most of the time.

Re: AQ, against LAG HU
 

i dont understand why you would call here. how can A high be good?

Re: AQ, against LAG HU
 

He has a boat, fold.

Re: AQ, against LAG HU
 

either c/f or b/f turn.. (c/f turn translates into c/f river UI)

Re: AQ, against LAG HU
 

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i dont understand why you would call here. how can A high be good?

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lol

I think I call here but I call too much and care too little. There can not be a general answer, it depends on the villain's IQ and some other factors.

About bet/folding on any street: Is it a bluff or a valuebet? I think its closer to a super thin (and bad) valuebet, everything better calls and some worse aces might call too. Check is the correct play on turn and the river, wheter to fold or call is the real question.

Re: AQ, against LAG HU
 

this is def a fold because of what jam said


fees betting this turn is really bad. Just give up when he calls the flop

Re: AQ, against LAG HU
 

i actually called in this hand and my thoughts at the time were that he didnt show any strenght on the flop and I really felt I was ahead at this point.. the turn was highly unlikely to help him and i checked the river expecting him to bet with a very wide range... I didnt bet because I didnt want to be raised and I felt he would bluff a large majority of the time so I would lose if I bet and was called and would gain nothing if I bet and he folded. It seems that the large majority of people think this is bad reasoning .....

Re: AQ, against LAG HU
 

bump

Re: AQ, against LAG HU
 

i have been playing a lot of HU lately and there's def times that i look villain up in this spot. w/o specific reads i like a fold.

Re: AQ, against LAG HU
 

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i dont understand why you would call here. how can A high be good?

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Why cant villain be calling this flop with 2 overs and betting river because Ive checked two streets to him OOP

Re: AQ, against LAG HU
 

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Trivial fold given the low probability of him calling the flop and checking the turn without showdown value to bluff the river.

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End thread.

Re: AQ, against LAG HU
 

I'd stop putting him on the one hand you beat as opposed to all the pairs he had or the draws that mostly hit.

Re: AQ, against LAG HU
 

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Why cant villain be calling this flop with 2 overs and betting river because Ive checked two streets to him OOP

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He can have anything really, it's just a question of his range and whether you beat that range often enough to make calling +EV. It's possible he called w/2 overs, but then he'll often take a stab on the turn once you check to him. It is true that he might check behind the turn and then finally take a stab at the river. But it's also very probable that he had a small pp and checked the turn because he feared you were slowplaying a bigger PP and were looking to stack-a-donk him.

Now that you checked twice, he will probably bet all his pairs for value because your hand is pretty much face up by now as a big ace that missed.

Also, both straight draws have you beat.

He's offering you 1:2.6 odds on a call so you have to be right 27% of the time. I don't think that missed overs that wait till the turn to bluff is 27% of his range so therefore I'd probably fold. It's probably close though.