NL(100) KK Hows my line?
 

Opponent has been very loose passive preflop....something VPIP 45 PFR 1.5

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $219.00
BB: $55.60
Hero (UTG): $99.00
CO: $112.25
BTN: $142.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3.00</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $3.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($7.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $12.00</font>, Hero calls $8.00

Turn: ($31.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $24.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $59.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $127.05</font>, Hero calls all-in for $25.00
Uncalled bet of $43.05 returned to BTN

River: ($199.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $199.50 ($2 Rake)

Re: NL(100) KK Hows my line?
 

More pre, more on the flop. And c/r the turn all in. Any ideas how he plays postflop? Against this monkey and this drawy flop i'd def. 3bet the flop and don't fold nowhere.

Re: NL(100) KK Hows my line?
 

I typically 3-bet the flop. There are way too many draws out there to allow btn to draw.

3-bet to 40 and call a push.

Re: NL(100) KK Hows my line?
 

have you seen him raise a pair here or just call. Depending on that depends on my line its either a 3bet/push or a call c/bomb turn line.
His vpip is 45 so he needs to be aggressive enough to raise here for me to felt.

Re: NL(100) KK Hows my line?
 

i 3 bet flop against this donk, at least crai on turn imo

Re: NL(100) KK Hows my line?
 

i think ur sizing on all streets are bad.
LOOSE player? raise more prelfop, then pot the flop.
Im not calling his raise on a 9T flop with two spades on it, 3bet flop to whatever sins u are allin on the turn anyway

Re: NL(100) KK Hows my line?
 

As others have already mentioned, pot it preflop and nearpot it on the flop. If he raises the flop you've gotta go with it here.

Re: NL(100) KK Hows my line?
 

PF and flop are bad, bet more, then be happy to get it in vs this donk

Re: NL(100) KK Hows my line?
 

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PF and flop are bad, bet more, then be happy to get it in vs this donk

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Thanks for the responses. Some comments and questions.

1. Several people criticized my preflop raise. Why? Would you typically
raise 4BB? 5BB? What would you do UTG with 77? Or AJs?

2. I considered checkraising all in on the turn like several people suggested
I think in restrospect, that is the better line.

3. On this flop, everyone is looking to go to the felt here. Is there really
no way to get away from this hand?

Thanks,
jonathan

Re: NL(100) KK Hows my line?
 

1) Because 3 is not enough. You give your opponents too good implies odds to hit better hands and will have problems to get max value postflop. A general discussion

3) There are ways to get away from the hand, like when he just calls your cbet, the turn comes 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and villain gives you much action. But you are not going to get away from a big overpair on this drawy flop w/o specific reads because he might play back at you with many worse hands than sets.
We want you to bet more because we want you to get the most value in case villain holds a T or 9 and to protect your hand in case he has a draw.

Re: NL(100) KK Hows my line?
 

Thanks for the link to discussion about preflop bet sizing.
I m not sure that I agree with you, but I will certainly take a
look at the discussion and rethink my preflop bet sizing.

Fine about protecting your hand against straight and flush draws, but
what you and the others are basically saying is that if opponent
flopped a set then you are getting stacked, right?

Re: NL(100) KK Hows my line?
 

Yeah, you get stacked on this flop most likely. Just make sure to get him put in enough money in the (way more likely) case he doesn't have a set.

Re: NL(100) KK Hows my line?
 

this flop looks like a standard 3bet.....yeah, make it 3.50 or 4 preflop and 5.5-6 otf too like others mentioned.

How to defend against sets?
 

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Yeah, you get stacked on this flop most likely. Just make sure to get him put in enough money in the (way more likely) case he doesn't have a set.

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The guy showed me TT and I was dead to 2 outs. All the lines suggested
in this thread would only have gotten the money allin quicker than I did,
and would have lost the whole stack too.

How do you defend against sets then? I recall seeing a Brian sbrugby
video where he discussed aggressively betting non premium hands to
protect your really good ones, but his explanation was not so clear.

How do you defend against sets?

Thanks,
jonathan

Re: NL(100) KK Hows my line?
 

whats up w/ ur betsizing? that's just bad. make it 4BB pf.
flop: what a nasty flop. i like a close to psb cbet here. if he raises i'd prolly stick it in on the flop here. calling is just bad bc ur OOP and there's so many draws out.
turn: i def don't like to stick it in on this not-blank turn.

so just b/3bet flop and go to war with it. it's only 100BB btw =)

edit: i obv didn't read the other posts

Re: How to defend against sets?
 

How to defend against sets?

Well on this board (w/o a specific read that villain is uber passive) i stack off for 100BB. If we were deeper we might be able to get away from this. then i like the call flop/ bomb brick turn line better. but like i said: it's 100BB heads up vs a donk on a draw heavy board. just stick it in.
against a donk the times u are shown a lone T,9, JJ, QQ or whatever the hell he's holding make up for the few times he's got a set.

Re: How to defend against sets?
 

on a drawy flop against a loose player aggressive with his draws and for 100 BB you are always stacking off the times he has a set because you're ahead of his range, not of his holding in this particular hand.
You have to put opponents on ranges.