Foxwoods 1/2 NL game
 

I used to be a regular in the Foxwoods 1/2 NL game until about two years ago. I decided to make a career change that sent me to the west coast. Now I'm back, and I've just learned the max buy in has tripled in that game since the last time I played. I was wondering if anyone here has played both the old and the new structure regularly (3+ days per week) and would be willing to discuss how this game has changed (if at all). I don't think I quite have the bankroll to start playing this new structure full time again, but I'm working on it, and I want to have a general idea of what I'm getting in to! Also, how different is the 1/2 and the 2/5 game? What size bankroll do some of you regulars have for these games (if you don't mind me asking)? In general, are these high variance games? Is 5K reasonable for the 1/2?

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Anything you can share with me will be very much appreciated. Thanks for your help, and good luck at the tables!

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1/2 is sick soft at Foxwoods. 5k bankroll is plenty for sure. I can't comment on the old structure but the games lately have been amazing.

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I agree with Al $5000 should be plenty. Welcome back to the great state of CT. PM me maybe we can carpool up there.

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it plays just as poorly as it used to. i have played various games there for the past 10 years. the 1/2 is super soft but now it just plays deeper. i have not messed with the 2/5 there in about a year since the 1/2 is now 300. 5k is perfect amount to be rolled to deal with the variance. this in my experience since it has become the 300 max, is my favorite B&M game. even more than vegas games. thats saying alot.

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? In general, are these high variance games? Is 5K reasonable for the 1/2?



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Lol at the 5k is reasonable answers. What are you trying to accomplish playing 1/2? Is entertainment you main goal, is trying to eak out a living the main goal, is blowing off some steam the goal, ect...?

If you're trying to make a living at it, 20-30 buy ins is safe (max buy ins). If you're going just to play and have a good time, then a "bankroll" really isn't needed, just take what you're comfortable with.

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I RUN BAD AT FOXWOODS.


just buyin for $300 and get sucked out on in $600 pots it's fun.

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The varianceis fairly high at the 1-2 game due mainly to the loose play. A comfortable playing bankroll would be around 5k, but if you're o.k. taking a shot with 2 or 3 buy ins, by all means do so. 1-2 usually plays loose with 3-5 calling a 15-20 preflop raise. 2-5 usually plays tighter. Hardly ever bluff at 1-2, you'll get called. You can often value bet thin with top pair, middling kicker. Its amazing sometimes what you'll be called with. At 2-5 you can start to semi bluff and bluff more.

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$5k is ok BR for this game...

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is there still a time charge? if so how much?

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I'm planning on getting back to playing for a living. I was able to do this for a couple years in the old 1/2 game with a $2,500 bankroll. I'm just wondering how much I need to adjust the numbers for this new game. I might take a shot with $2,500 and see what happens. It doesn't sound like things have changed too too much, but I'm not quiting my day job yet!

Thanks everyone for your help. Your replies are greatly appreciated.

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oh yeah, is it still $10/hr to play? that was the worst! also, have they solidified a rule on tipping out of pocket? Two years ago some floor men didn't care, some were strict about it. Thanks again guys!

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Still the $5 on every dealer change.

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I've been told Mohegan is opening a poker room in 08. Is this the same rumor I've been hearing since the old room closed, or is this legit? Maybe some "competition" will bring the price of poker down? When the max buy in was $100, loosing 10% of your buy in to a seat charge every hour was brutal. And why can't you pay a seat charge out of pocket anyways?

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3k roll for this game is fine for a good player IMO I mean your going to take some gross beats from time to time but I dont see more than 10BI swings but IDK 5k seems like more than enough IMO these games are super soft to the point where 2/5 is only worth playing on fri-sun nights IMO.

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I've been told Mohegan is opening a poker room in 08. Is this the same rumor I've been hearing since the old room closed, or is this legit? Maybe some "competition" will bring the price of poker down? When the max buy in was $100, loosing 10% of your buy in to a seat charge every hour was brutal. And why can't you pay a seat charge out of pocket anyways?

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This is legit - Mohegan Sun is slated to open a 45 table room in Spring '08. I have no idea if they are on schedule.

In theory you can pay the seat charge out of pocket if you have less than the $300 max buy-in in front of you - by simply replenishing your chip stack up to $300.

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No way this happens. If they are smart then they will use a rake instead and compete that way.

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game is better for good players and still a joke. 2-5 is very soft, and 5-10 is soft on most days though the slowrolling regulars can really be annoying.

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I dont disagree but I dont get why people make such a big deal about paying time I mean these games are so soft that if the time charge is killing your bottom line then maybe you arent very good. time charge only really hurts nitty players.

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I dont disagree but I dont get why people make such a big deal about paying time I mean these games are so soft that if the time charge is killing your bottom line then maybe you arent very good. time charge only really hurts nitty players.

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it doesnt hurt nitty players. it hurts players who adjust. if a table is super loose with raising and reraising preflop(which i see at 1-2 very often) then the players tighetning up get hit with paying time + blinds instead of just blinds. there has been numerous times where ive ran super cold and folded every hand for an hour and a half or 2 hours and have to pay an extra 20 bucks where in a rake game im only out my blinds.

To play devils advocate though i think the time charge loosens players up because they can play more pots and win smaller pots to help their bottom line more because nothing is deducted from each pot.

but to say time only affects nits is silly

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i dont thinm mohegan can rake nl. I heard the gaming commission is responsible for that decision but i coul dhave gotten bad info

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I am not sure if they can go rake or not, but we did get a 1/2 NL game going pre boom. They made us pay time, which we felt was kind of a rape at the time. Not many people were playing at the time anyways, so it died out.

Paulie

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yeah but the times you win 4 pots in an hour you prob payed less in time then you would have payed if they raked the pot.. so I think its kind of a wash.
I play a tight style as well and I know what your saying about having to adjust to the looseness of these games. When I say nitty I mean more the personality of the players that constantly complain about paying time.
I just think 1/2 at foxwoods as so soft I dont get the constant complaining about paying time. and for me I dont get driving another 15 min to mohegan just to play in a game that is raked but I think alot of these complainers will go which will prob be good for the games at foxwoods after the inital "new room" factor dies down.

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I hope when Mohegan poker rooms open up they will have raked $1-2 no limit games so I can say kiss my (censored) foxwoods!

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I hope when Mohegan poker rooms open up they will have raked $1-2 no limit games so I can say kiss my (censored) foxwoods!

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its really funny that you typed out censored because if you just swore the censored would look like this. [censored]

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but to say time only affects nits is silly

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Definite sign of a nit here. You should be focused on crushing one of the softest games on the eastern seaboard. Instead youre worried about a buck or two....

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I hope when Mohegan poker rooms open up they will have raked $1-2 no limit games so I can say kiss my (censored) foxwoods!

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its really funny that you typed out censored because if you just swore the censored would look like this. [censored]

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I rest my case. This court finds you GUILTY of being a nit!!!

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I hope when Mohegan poker rooms open up they will have raked $1-2 no limit games so I can say kiss my (censored) foxwoods!

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its really funny that you typed out censored because if you just swore the censored would look like this. [censored]

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I rest my case. This court finds you GUILTY of being a nit!!!

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i never said i wasnt, but i was just doing that to bust on that poster, who is my buddy that lives right down the street from me

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Key to crushing 1-2 at FW: Don't be a tight nit. Don't woory about the time charge. Enjoy yourself. Have a few too many drinks. Play a smart lag style and stack or outplay the nits with funny hands. Just make sure you can afford to lose 2-3 full buy ins a session.

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It punishes everyone, only the "nits" are aware of it. time charge punishers tight players. But I'm more concerned about other things such as taking breaks. If I want to go get a sandwhich or have a smoke during the NL games. I am losing money because I paid for the half hour. In the raked games, you lose nothing at all for taking a break.

Is knowing this "nitty"? Nah.

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Is knowing this "nitty"? Nah.

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Spending this much time thinking about it is.

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Play a smart lag style and stack or outplay the nits with funny hands. Just make sure you can afford to lose 2-3 full buy ins a session.

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Shhh!

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the woods is a joke... 900 should be a sufficient bankroll for that game. old and new... difference you win more faster.

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wow, i can't believe how many replies this post got. i was just curious when i asked about the time charge. it was a big deal in when the max buy in was $100. you could sit down in the middle of a dealers shift, get hit up for time, and when the new dealer came in 15 minutes later, get hit again. after two orbits, you're down $16. with a $300 buy in the time isn't worth thinking about.

i went down the other day just to get a feel for how
the game is playing now. you guys weren't kidding, this game is a softer than ever, the biggest difference is now you win more faster, indeed.

thank you all for your input. this forum is great.

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I played the 2-5 last Friday, and that game was ridiculous, 7 handed to the flop for $30 was fairly standard. Several of the players were terrible, and there was even a bluffing station. Did I just go at the best possible time, or is the game often like that? Because 1-3$ sounds pretty good from what you guys are saying.

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When it was $100/max players were more than willing to stick all their stack in the middle on the flop with TP/NK. Now that's it's $300/max those same players are still very willing to do the same thing. Come to think of it, I'm amazed those players are still around.