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getitfixed 09-06-2007 01:12 AM

FOLD>CALL>SHOVE?
 
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $98
CO: $110.70
Button: $153
HERO: $325
BB: $292.95

Pre-flop: (5 players) HERO is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $15</font>, HERO calls, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($47, 3 players)
HERO checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $23.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $65</font>.

HERO???

piiop 09-06-2007 01:23 AM

Re: FOLD>CALL>SHOVE?
 
fold&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g t;&gt;shove&gt;&gt;call

rine 09-06-2007 01:32 AM

Re: FOLD>CALL>SHOVE?
 
Easy fold preflop. Easy fold flop.

alavet 09-06-2007 02:16 AM

Re: FOLD>CALL>SHOVE?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Easy fold preflop. Easy fold flop.

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Elrazor 09-06-2007 04:22 AM

Re: FOLD>CALL>SHOVE?
 
if you are all playing deep i call every time, but the 50bb co has miniraised, and then been repotted. if he is any kind of shortstack player he will repot here unless button is something like 20/3/1.5 so i fold.

i fold the flop here, but i really dont mind shoving with your overpair/straight/BD flush depending on reads. dont ever call this

pete fabrizio 09-06-2007 05:25 AM

Re: FOLD>CALL>SHOVE?
 
lol at all you nits.

RoundTower 09-06-2007 06:10 AM

Re: FOLD&gt;CALL&gt;SHOVE?
 
fold preflop, shove flop.

Triantafylidis 09-06-2007 07:47 AM

Re: FOLD&gt;CALL&gt;SHOVE?
 
Fold preflop
Fold&gt;&gt;&gt;Shove&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;call

donkeykong2 09-06-2007 11:55 AM

Re: FOLD&gt;CALL&gt;SHOVE?
 
shoving the flop cant be too bad, depends on the opponents obviously.

RichGangi 09-06-2007 12:09 PM

Re: FOLD>CALL>SHOVE?
 
Fold PF. As played, Id call flop. BTN has Aces.

RoundTower 09-06-2007 12:10 PM

Re: FOLD&amp;gt;CALL&amp;gt;SHOVE?
 
no way there is more than one &gt; between any of the options, the shove is close to breakeven and call is almost exactly equivalent to shove since there will be about 1/3 of the pot left behind.

I think shove &gt; call &gt; fold.

axel 09-07-2007 09:36 AM

Re: FOLD&amp;gt;CALL&amp;gt;SHOVE?
 
i think it is a easy fold giving that you only have 8 outs.. that might very wel be to a split pot.. you are probaly up against a set or a wrap and that gives you very bad odds.. either you have around 32% or you have not that many cards and to a split..

Triantafylidis 09-07-2007 09:43 AM

Re: FOLD&amp;gt;CALL&amp;gt;SHOVE?
 
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i think it is a easy fold giving that you only have 8 outs.. that might very wel be to a split pot.. you are probaly up against a set or a wrap and that gives you very bad odds.. either you have around 32% or you have not that many cards and to a split..

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wow...
How nitty are you?
Who's to say we even need outs in this spot? Maybe were just dodging a few outs. Its really not a bad spot to shove at all IMHO

original_red 09-07-2007 10:05 AM

Re: FOLD>CALL>SHOVE?
 
I think it's close, so whatever you do, you're probably not making a big mistake.. you don't mind variance, or feel like gambling, you shove.. if not, then folding is just as good if you figure the shove to have a net gain of 0$.. I'd do what my mood tells me to do...


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