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SuperUberBob 09-02-2007 04:16 AM

Early Heisman favorites
 
The college football season is underway and we finally got a look at some of this year's Heisman favorites for 2007.

Who looks to be top dog in this year's race? The popular choice seems to be Darren McFadden, the junior RB from Arkansas, which makes sense. He was the runner up last year. This is very likely his peak year and he'll probably forego his senior year and enter the 2008 NFL Draft.

Other notables includes Colt Brennan, who threw 6 TDs in the first half of yesterday's game. Could have gotten to double digits had he played throughout. Brian Brohm had an outstanding game, albeit against a much inferior team. Other hopefuls include John David Booty, Pat White, Steve Slaton and Colt McCoy.

ASPoker8 09-02-2007 05:26 AM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
no Tim Tebow?

bonds 09-02-2007 07:18 AM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
Hart's chances got a boost with Henne's lousy game but there's still no way he'll win. GG, Michigan candidates.

White and Slaton will split votes. McFadden's numbers will be cut a little by Jones and Huston Nutt's general insanity.

Given how much team success impacts voting, as of right now, I'd rank the favorites as:
1. Booty
2. Brohm
3. Brennan
4. Teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeebow.

THEOSU 09-02-2007 09:04 AM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
not so sure mike hart should be on the list any more.

BigSoonerFan 09-02-2007 09:45 AM

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not so sure mike hart should be on the list any more.

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Really? 188 yards and 3 touchdowns isn't too bad, against an App St team that is obviously decent.

And I'm not even a Michigan fan.... (obviously)

but feel free to replace him with the future Heisman winner, Sam Bradford...or Demarco Murray...or Mossis Madu...one of the three.

THEOSU 09-02-2007 10:06 AM

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not so sure mike hart should be on the list any more.

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Really? 188 yards and 3 touchdowns isn't too bad, against an App St team that is obviously decent.

And I'm not even a Michigan fan.... (obviously)

but feel free to replace him with the future Heisman winner, Sam Bradford...or Demarco Murray...or Mossis Madu...one of the three.

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you can rack up 2000 yards, but you're not going to win if your team goes 5-6

rwperu34 09-02-2007 10:24 AM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
Ryan Torain?

hoyasnaxa 09-02-2007 10:47 AM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
desean jackson?

sc000t 09-02-2007 11:04 AM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
The two West Virgina canadites are just crazy fast. It sucks their both on the team, but if their team does something this year I wouldn't be suprised if they gave it to either slaten or white personally.

BigSoonerFan 09-02-2007 11:19 AM

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not so sure mike hart should be on the list any more.

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Really? 188 yards and 3 touchdowns isn't too bad, against an App St team that is obviously decent.

And I'm not even a Michigan fan.... (obviously)

but feel free to replace him with the future Heisman winner, Sam Bradford...or Demarco Murray...or Mossis Madu...one of the three.

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you can rack up 2000 yards, but you're not going to win if your team goes 5-6

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Michigan will not go 5-6 (more like 9-3 or 10-2), and if he gets more than 2000, he'll have a shot.

TruFloridaGator 09-02-2007 11:29 AM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
Tebow is a sophomore, so even if he deserves it he'll get jobbed like Rex did.

ozyman 09-02-2007 11:33 AM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
Matt Ryan, Boston College
400+ yards, 5 TDs in a win against the defending ACC Champions.

mmbt0ne 09-02-2007 12:18 PM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
Please. Tebow's not even the best sophomore qb is his division.

moayer 09-02-2007 12:29 PM

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desean jackson?

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Needle77 09-02-2007 12:31 PM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
Ray Rice FTW.

renodoc 09-02-2007 01:53 PM

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desean jackson?

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Ponies 09-02-2007 02:15 PM

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Matt Ryan, Boston College
400+ yards, 5 TDs in a win against the defending ACC Champions.

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barryc83 09-02-2007 02:28 PM

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no Tim Tebow?

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I have no idea if youre being sarcastic, but this is why there are so many Tebow haters. I am not one though, I think he will be good and I wanted Bama to get him. A guy who has started 1 game against a cupcake should not be recognized as in the Heisman race yet. Putting Tebow on any top 5 QB list or on a Heisman list is utterly retarded. Let him play someone first. I think he will be good this year and UF probably wins the East, but no Heisman talk please.

NozeCandy 09-02-2007 02:42 PM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
Just keep in mind that Hart did all of that in 2 quarters. He was injured for the other two. It's a small consolation knowing that if he stays healthy that at least someone can do something when everything else is going to hell.

BigSoonerFan 09-02-2007 03:32 PM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
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Matt Ryan, Boston College
400+ yards, 5 TDs in a win against the defending ACC Champions.

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He actually threw for six touchdowns. :-)

orange 09-02-2007 03:45 PM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
even though i am a UF fan, ill have to agree with the tebow thing.

lippy 09-02-2007 05:32 PM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
McFadden is a beast and quite fun to watch. I hope I get to see more than a few of his games.

Gooch 09-02-2007 08:42 PM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
Colt Brennan 34/40 416yds passing 6tds 0ints in only one half.

bluef0x 09-02-2007 08:50 PM

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Colt Brennan 34/40 416yds passing 6tds 0ints in only one half.

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but they didn't score 100.

SuperUberBob 09-02-2007 08:53 PM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
Colt's numbers might be a product of the offensive system used in Hawaii. Does anybody believe that he would have the same success in a Big Ten offense? I think that's the one thing that detracts from his run at the Heisman.

If McFadden has a season like he did last year, I think he gets it.

Jack of Arcades 09-02-2007 09:06 PM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
The system probably helps, but his numbers are too sick to be a product of anything.

barryc83 09-02-2007 10:51 PM

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Colt Brennan 34/40 416yds passing 6tds 0ints in only one half.

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Remember Timmy Chang?

Dudd 09-02-2007 11:09 PM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
Anyone on Georgia Tech's defense [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

THAY3R 09-03-2007 12:03 AM

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Colt Brennan 34/40 416yds passing 6tds 0ints in only one half.

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Remember Timmy Chang?

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I do, his numbers don't even come close to comparing.

vhawk01 09-03-2007 12:22 AM

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Colt Brennan 34/40 416yds passing 6tds 0ints in only one half.

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Remember Timmy Chang?

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I do, his numbers don't even come close to comparing.

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Colt Brennan: Second only to Ty Detmer!

barryc83 09-03-2007 09:49 AM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
Just looked it up No. Colorado is a 1AA team that went 1-10 last season. gj Colt. Put Hawaii in the worst BCS conference and Colts a nobody. The biggest game of the season is against BSU.

Jack of Arcades 09-03-2007 10:28 AM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
Dude... Kevin Kolb.

Gooch 09-03-2007 10:42 AM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
Kevin Kolb has no chance since he'll be backing up McNabb

Jack of Arcades 09-03-2007 10:54 AM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
I was responding to barry's point re: competition.

Also, Brennan threw 5 TDs against Boise St.

XXXNoahXXX 09-03-2007 11:33 AM

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Matt Ryan, Boston College
400+ yards, 5 TDs in a win against the defending ACC Champions.

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He actually threw for six touchdowns. :-)

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vhawk01 09-03-2007 12:17 PM

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Just looked it up No. Colorado is a 1AA team that went 1-10 last season. gj Colt. Put Hawaii in the worst BCS conference and Colts a nobody. The biggest game of the season is against BSU.

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He's a nobody meaning...? I mean, Hawaii goes 5-6 in a real conference or something like that, but Brennan still throws 40+ TDs and 4,500+ yards. They just lose games 48-42 instead of win them 56-17.

bluef0x 09-03-2007 01:15 PM

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Just looked it up No. Colorado is a 1AA team that went 1-10 last season. gj Colt. Put Hawaii in the worst BCS conference and Colts a nobody. The biggest game of the season is against BSU.

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I think you missed the reason why they scheduled the game...

barryc83 09-03-2007 01:47 PM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
Ill admit that I dont know why the game was scheduled, but Ill also admit that if Brennan wins the Heisman its a travesty. They only scored 17 against a 6-7 Bama team who finished in the bottom 3rd of the SEC. And Bama did not have a great D last year either.

Look at their schedule.

No. Col
@La Tech
@UNLV
Charleston Southern
@Idaho
Utah State
@SJ State
NM State
Fresno State
@Nevada
BSU
Washington

I guess the toughest game is a toss up between BSU/Wash. Either way theres a pretty good chance that UH doesnt even play a ranked opponent. And to the Kolb reference, he didnt win the Heisman. You dont give props to any 1A team for beating a 1AA team, that is ridiculous. A lot and I mean a lot of BCS QBs can light No. Col. up for 6 TDs. And Colt plays the whole game to right? And they dont call the dogs off like a BCS team would do.

Jack of Arcades 09-03-2007 01:49 PM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
I was objecting to you calling him a "nobody." No, Kolb didn't win the Heisman but he was a high draft pick (and will probably be a good NFL QB).

TalkingDonkey 09-03-2007 01:50 PM

Re: Early Heisman favorites
 
Andre Woodson. He'll be a household name soon.


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