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lowroller 09-01-2007 04:35 AM

NFL 6pt 2 teamers
 
Are there any books left that deal these at EV rather than -110?

Other than 5 Dimes??

rjp 09-01-2007 09:54 AM

Re: NFL 6pt 2 teamers
 
As far as I know -110 is the norm for some time.

playersare 09-01-2007 10:13 AM

Re: NFL 6pt 2 teamers
 
betpop

ImNew 09-02-2007 10:25 AM

Re: NFL 6pt 2 teamers
 
Just done some research for ya [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Yellow indicates the best price available for that kind of teaser.

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/5736/15064080wi0.jpg

brendanb438 09-02-2007 10:29 AM

Re: NFL 6pt 2 teamers
 
I get two team 6 pt teasers at 5Dimes at 100. And a tie isn't a loss, it is a push. Why do people not like 5Dimes for these teasers?

Artdogg 09-02-2007 12:26 PM

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I get two team 6 pt teasers at 5Dimes at 100. And a tie isn't a loss, it is a push. Why do people not like 5Dimes for these teasers?

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because they screw around with their teaser lines because they are bastards

havent used thegreek in a while, anyone know if they still have +180 for 3 teamers and +500 for 5 teamers?

Artdogg 09-02-2007 12:30 PM

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I get two team 6 pt teasers at 5Dimes at 100. And a tie isn't a loss, it is a push. Why do people not like 5Dimes for these teasers?

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because they screw around with their teaser lines because they are bastards

havent used thegreek in a while, anyone know if they still have +180 for 3 teamers and +500 for 5 teamers?

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ok just checked, they do, should be the best prices around for 3s and 5s, hopefully they still take US customers

thing85 09-02-2007 12:39 PM

Re: NFL 6pt 2 teamers
 
Yes, the Greek does still take US customers (unless they've changed very recently).

kaboshedx 09-02-2007 02:08 PM

Re: NFL 6pt 2 teamers
 
by "screw around" do you mean that they try to bait you into taking -EV wongs by posting the straight bet spreads at scewed odds.

i.e im seeing lots of Atlanta +2.5 (+100), Miami +2.5 (+105)

Teasing these wong styl would not be +EV as these are not the true lines...correct?

Artdogg 09-02-2007 03:26 PM

Re: NFL 6pt 2 teamers
 
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by "screw around" do you mean that they try to bait you into taking -EV wongs by posting the straight bet spreads at scewed odds.

i.e im seeing lots of Atlanta +2.5 (+100), Miami +2.5 (+105)

Teasing these wong styl would not be +EV as these are not the true lines...correct?

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Well, this is an interesting week. They have screwed around with just about every line in the vicinity of the 3 and the 7 (outside of cincy/balt) but they dont seem to mess with the dogs NEARLY as much as they screw with the favs. You can pretty much expect almost all 7-8.5 point favs (and even some 6.5) to be set at 9+, making them unwongable.

Some of these could still be +EV. A lot of the lines where you tease OFF the key numbers are still +EV, while the ones where you tease ONTO a key number are not (or at least less EV than betting on the spread.)

This seems to be a "pick your spots" week. The only true wong up seems to be DET/BALT (although that wouldnt be available at 5dimes.) 5 dimes seems to only screw with their dogs by a 1/2 or at most 1 point. I have no idea if a half point is more valuable than 10 cents, hopefully someone else can chime in there. My guess is it would be more valuable than a 1/2 point and less valuable than a point (on average.)

kaboshedx 09-02-2007 05:11 PM

Re: NFL 6pt 2 teamers
 
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Some of these could still be +EV. A lot of the lines where you tease OFF the key numbers are still +EV, while the ones where you tease ONTO a key number are not (or at least less EV than betting on the spread.)

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If I'm not mistaken teasing off or on to a key number is not a true Wong, the tease has to go accross a key number.

What I'm trying to get at is - when judging whether a spread is wongable or not does one need to use the "true line" to juge. Or, is it as black and white as just moving the number that a book has posted regardless of what another book has the -110 line set at?

rjp 09-02-2007 05:38 PM

Re: NFL 6pt 2 teamers
 
I think what 5Dimes does is they typically offer adjusted prices when you select which team to bet. Well, if the team is close to a key number the "main" spread is actually the adjusted spread, such that when you go to tease the game you get a bad number.

For example, the Titans were -7 this week, yet 5Dimes had the main spread at an adjust -8 so when you went to tease the game their system used -8 instead of -7.

Artdogg 09-02-2007 07:32 PM

Re: NFL 6pt 2 teamers
 
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I think what 5Dimes does is they typically offer adjusted prices when you select which team to bet. Well, if the team is close to a key number the "main" spread is actually the adjusted spread, such that when you go to tease the game you get a bad number.

For example, the Titans were -7 this week, yet 5Dimes had the main spread at an adjust -8 so when you went to tease the game their system used -8 instead of -7.

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aka they [censored] with the lines

ImNew 09-02-2007 07:44 PM

Re: NFL 6pt 2 teamers
 
It depends, I think.

For favourites, I choose teams base on moneyline rather than the spread. For dogs, I look at what price I'm getting at +2.5 on side. Also, I take line movement into consideration.


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