AKs - River Bluff v. Donk
 

History: The previous two hands I raised preflop and got heads-up with him. In both hands he check-folded. This is now the third hand in a row I have raised...

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $136.10
BB: $133.95
UTG: $103.00
Hero (MP): $109.20
CO: $99.35
BTN: $98.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $7.00</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $3.00

Flop: ($15) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $5.00</font>, Hero calls $5.00 (Probably a bad idea, right?)

Turn: ($25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $5.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $15.00</font>, SB calls $10.00

River: ($55) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $42.00</font>

Comments on all streets much appriciated. Thanks.

Re: AKs - River Bluff v. Donk
 

i think once he calls the turn, he's rarely folding this river.

Re: AKs - River Bluff v. Donk
 

flop call is meh, i call too... preflop i play the same if he's your table target otherwise i likely 4b to 35/call a push

i flat call turn, i dont think there's a lot of value in raising and you know he's paying you off

i check behind river too, for some reason i have a vision of a set going for c/rai after his turn repeat bet and flat call and the only thing he's going to fold is TT or AQ

Re: AKs - River Bluff v. Donk
 

I really didn't like how i played this hand (not being results-orientated - he actually folded.) I like your suggestion of 4-betting pre-flop and calling a push.

Re: AKs - River Bluff v. Donk
 

If you're going to raise the turn, make a real raise.

Re: AKs - River Bluff v. Donk
 

I don't know what to do pre here either.

I'd probably pop the flop though.

Re: AKs - River Bluff v. Donk
 

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If you're going to raise the turn, make a real raise.

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It's exactly the same amount as I'd bet with a proper hand.

Re: AKs - River Bluff v. Donk
 

I think your bluff will work against most players when they have a one pair hand like AJ, maybe overpairs as well. However, I think once they call the turn, they are likely to call the river. Also, if they are not willing to give you credit for hitting a gutshot with Q10 or 107, or two pair with J9, then they will think you either flopped a set or are bluffing, possibly with 910 or a pair that picked up diamonds on the turn. Accordingly, this type of bluff where it is hard to represent something other than a set might get called in some spots.

Re: AKs - River Bluff v. Donk
 

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If you're going to raise the turn, make a real raise.

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It's exactly the same amount as I'd bet with a proper hand.

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If you're going to raise the turn, make a real raise.

Re: AKs - River Bluff v. Donk
 

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If you're going to raise the turn, make a real raise.

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It's exactly the same amount as I'd bet with a proper hand.

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If you're going to raise the turn, make a real raise.

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If you're going to respond to my posts, do it without the attitude.

Re: AKs - River Bluff v. Donk
 

yea i would prolly 3 bet preflop cause most of the time they do that min raise theyre not very strong. They usually want to take the lead by putting little money in the pot.. so i would 3 bet preflop and bet flop. and on the turn against a donk. i might ck behind and ck if i missed cause hes prolly claling u the whole way. but against a regular player i would prolly shove the turn.

Re: AKs - River Bluff v. Donk
 

I think raising the turn sucks as you're easily getting direct odds to call and your implied odds are pretty good as your draw is well-concealed -- it's safe to say that you'll win $10-$15 more on average when you hit. After all if he has a J or TT only 1 diamond will be an overcard to his hand. Meanwhile if he has a big hand -- one you have the most implied odds against -- he is now likely to re-raise you out of the hand.

On the flop, I dunno. If he's check-folded to you a couple times you'd think he would have gone for a check-raise with a big hand? On the other hand he may be goading you into raising, or may get stubborn with a marginal hand if you raise. It's really hard to say without more info, but on balance I think I prefer calling to raising as even hands you are ahead of may be going for a bet-3bet. What if you hit top pair on the turn and he donks again for 1/2 pot or more though?

I don't think I like the river as the only better hands I can see him folding are T9 and TT, and I actually think even TT will look you up pretty often. Meanwhile it seems very possible that he's going for a check-raise.