npr \"talk of the nation\" report on online gambling
 

caught part of this while driving today. seemed pretty interesting. i only heard the end where they were talking about the wto battle with antigua. gonna listen to the rest now.

totn is one of npr's most distributed broadcasts so i think their slant is important. esp since totn is considered one of the super liberal npr broadcasts.

btw, who is will detweiler?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=13975457

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nice link, the dude talking about riggedness is great

seems like the tables are turning in our favor a bit

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cliff notes?

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Anyone have cliff notes for people at work?

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From the clip's intro:
"The cards are digital but the cash is real in online gambling. There's a fortune being won, and lost, on the Web, even though it's illegal in the United States. Players go to surprising lengths to enter the virtual casino and place their bets."


Yup, this is the kind of precision of language I'd expect from a solid news outlet. Oh, wait, this is NPR.

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Interesting that the lawyer guy said it's not illegal to gamble within state lines, only across state lines. So you could have a californiapoker.com and it'd be completely legal...

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This host is such a douche. Blah blah blah, transferring money to gaming sites is money laundering, blah blah blah, some guy calls in "ZOMG ONLINE POKER IS RIGGED," blah blah blah, online poker is illegal. Awesome research chief.

Cliff Notes: He makes me wanna choke a bitch.

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my thoughts. neil conan is an [censored]. wtf at laundering? is it really laundering? i dont get it.

and wowow, lol at the rigged guy. how the [censored] does making the chipleader lose expedite play in tourneys?

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maybe he should look up money laundering in the dictionary

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though you guys might not launder money, or know anybody who does, that is a pretty reasonable argument. there are different degree's and types of money laundering, and online poker is a very very easy way of legitimizing a bunch of illegitimate cash very quickly. i could think of a hundred different ways you could do it without raising any problems for yourself. i didn't listen to the link, but did they talk about tax evasion as being a problem in their broadcast also? i would think thats a big issue for the govt. what it comes down to is if the govt. can't make the percent they want to off something, then [censored] it, it becomes illegal. same reason why weed is still illegal IMO, because the govt can't figure out how to tax it in a way to make it worth their while. alcohol, cigarette's, casino gambling are all things that the govt can tax you on pretty easily and therefore no matter how bad people think they are for you, as long as they make enough they could care less

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If they regulated it and/or made it legal in the US, it would be hell of easier for them to track and tax it

Ive heard arguements against online poker and saying it should become illegal b/c atm it is based outside the US, ie all the revenue generated by the industry is staying outside the US. Rather then just attempting to make it illegal to keep the money in the US they also could just legalize it. Id think that if it was legalized all the major US casinos would open up sites pretty quickly and that it would be reported and such by them and taxed just as quickly/easily as before.

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Yup, this is the kind of precision of language I'd expect from a solid news outlet. Oh, wait, this is NPR.

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Yeah because mainstream corporate news isn't saying the same thing.

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Yup, this is the kind of precision of language I'd expect from a solid news outlet. Oh, wait, this is NPR.

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Yeah because mainstream corporate news isn't saying the same thing.

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Believe me, that wasn't my point. I just like busting on people who regard NPR as the last bastion of honest, intrepid journalism.

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Yup, this is the kind of precision of language I'd expect from a solid news outlet. Oh, wait, this is NPR.

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Yeah because mainstream corporate news isn't saying the same thing.

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Believe me, that wasn't my point. I just like busting on people who regard NPR as the last bastion of honest, intrepid journalism.

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Just curious...who do you trust when it comes to the news?
Or do you pretty much have to sift through every bodies bs and decide for yourself what is legit?

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Who do I trust? It depends on the story, and where (ideologically) each outlet is most likely coming from. I read it all from Ann Coulter to CNN to Daily Kos, and usually the truth (to me at least) falls somewhere in the middle.

But enough with the threadjack (which I'm aware I partly started). I thought this NPR host put on a very weak performance.

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All,

FYI this show is taped in Washington DC and 2+2er wdead was the kid, WIll Deadwyler, interviewed on the show today for like 6 minutes. I was also in the studio, but did not go on air.

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I heard the show and was very frustrated by the lack of knowledge and preparation exhibited by pretty much everyone involved. The show felt very aimless and haphazard.

Such a waste of a great opportunity.

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I mean, really. I would think that NPR would be very, very supportive of our mutual best friend, The Honorable Barney Frank of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

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Is "Talk of the Nation" the one where they read aloud the listener mail once a week? If so, TheEngineer or someone should get on this.

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this show is putting me on lifetilt

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Not going to click the link to listen.
Not a big fan of TOTN nor of Neil Conan.
He talks frequently about subjects he has very little understanding of.
NPR can do a really good job a lot of the time. But Neil Conan nor this program are really in that category imo.

I could have predicted the direction this program would go without even reading the responses.
It's disappointing that they have to make it all seem more dramatic and evil then it really is and equally disappointing that they can't be bothered to learn more about it from half-way intelligent people who understand that the game isn't rigged but I really wouldn't expect much more.
Kind of typical really.

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I heard the show and was very frustrated by the lack of knowledge and preparation exhibited by pretty much everyone involved. The show felt very aimless and haphazard.

Such a waste of a great opportunity.

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it was completely inept. it was newsworthy for anyone over the age of 70

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Not going to click the link to listen.
Not a big fan of TOTN nor of Neil Conan.
He talks frequently about subjects he has very little understanding of.
NPR can do a really good job a lot of the time. But Neil Conan nor this program are really in that category imo.

I could have predicted the direction this program would go without even reading the responses.
It's disappointing that they have to make it all seem more dramatic and evil then it really is and equally disappointing that they can't be bothered to learn more about it from half-way intelligent people who understand that the game isn't rigged but I really wouldn't expect much more.
Kind of typical really.

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Couldn't agree more. This program was pedestrian at best, weakly researched and most definately hastily put together. Wasted 10 minutes of my life.

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Not going to click the link to listen.
Not a big fan of TOTN nor of Neil Conan.
He talks frequently about subjects he has very little understanding of.
NPR can do a really good job a lot of the time. But Neil Conan nor this program are really in that category imo.

I could have predicted the direction this program would go without even reading the responses.
It's disappointing that they have to make it all seem more dramatic and evil then it really is and equally disappointing that they can't be bothered to learn more about it from half-way intelligent people who understand that the game isn't rigged but I really wouldn't expect much more.
Kind of typical really.

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You should listen to it. It wasn't bad at all. 2+2'ers are nitpicking because they're more directly affected and understand the issue better. Zero time was wasted on the moral issue...it was more "could this affect US companies that need WTO protection".

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i thought the wto stuff was interesting. i assume it was accurate as the guy was a lawyer working for the wto.

the rest was lame ya.

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Interesting that the lawyer guy said it's not illegal to gamble within state lines, only across state lines. So you could have a californiapoker.com and it'd be completely legal...

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this is indeed interesting. I think this type of situation will be the first manifestation of "legal" online poker in the US...make it a Party Poker or PokerRoom skin plz

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Will have to give this a listen. Will never seemed like the most articulate guy...maybe because he is always stoned and giggling.

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why are ppl complaining about a lack of facts? Why would republicans use facts?

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From the clip's intro:
"The cards are digital but the cash is real in online gambling. There's a fortune being won, and lost, on the Web, even though it's illegal in the United States. Players go to surprising lengths to enter the virtual casino and place their bets."

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why would anyone listen to the rest of it if this is the introduction? the american news media is such a joke