10/25 Borgata, bluffed out for 6k :( :(
 

10/25 Borgata, some regulars and some crazies. Me = in between.

I have around 5k behind.

I'm dealt AdAc in the SB

UTG limps, 2 other callers. I raise to 175. (maybe not enough for this table, but nonetheless....

BB (50k behind) calls, utg calls.

Flop Qd 7h 7d

I was thinking about check raising flop, but decided to lead out for 400.
- BB folds
- UTG calls. (this has me worried about QQ or a 7 connector obv), maybe KK.

Turn is a brick 8c

(BOARD Qd 7d 7h, 8c)

I bet out 1000, utg shoves for 3k more.

At the time I put the bastard on 6-7 or 8-8. QQ calls.

I folded.

He turns up 99. I can't stop thinking about this hand today. Looking back I should have just check/called the turn and river (unless A came)...Any other advice?

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pussy

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I know, I suck.

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you played this fine

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omg you are the weakest player ever. Why would you put him on QQ? He limps utg to coldcall the second time around? Wtf?

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At the time I put the bastard on 6-7 or 8-8. QQ calls.



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Nice touch.

If this isn't just a troll post, move down asap.

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you suck. period.

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linky

"I have played poker for 5 years. Up until May of this year it was just for fun once in a while. Once May came around I started heading down to Atlantic City each weekend. Every weekend it seemed like I was making hundreds at the 1-2 game. I had won a few tournaments as well.

Fast forward to this past July. I entered the nightly 100K on Pokerstars and got first for around 28K. This was the bankroll boost that I needed. Since then I moved up in games. I won a few more thousand playing 2-5, 5-10, even some 10-20. I was pushing a 45K roll this past Sunday. Then all hell broke lose. I sat in 10-20 Monday and in 2 hours I lost 6 thousand dollars. 3 of them all in preflop with AA againt 99. Obviously, this happens and it didn't piss me off that much, but then something happened, I kept losing. I was playing scared money, and we all know scared = dead. Yesterday I deposited 2k and played some 5-10. I went up a quick 1100 in my morning session. That night I got greedy again and played some 10-20. I ended up going broke in a timespan of an hour. I was sick. I had just lost 8K in 2 days. Last night my friend staked me to play in the nightly hundred K. I finished in the money for a $200 dollar net win. Nothing special. The thing that sucks is that I lost another race with a PP against AQ.

I just deposited 500 into my account. I'm going to move back down to 3-6 and get my game back. I've never had a bad swing like this, and need some advice on how to handle it psychologically. Thanks guys."



i'm gonna give you some serious advice: stop playing this high, you're not good enough. the only game you've had any experience of beating is live 1-2, and now you jump into 10-25? (not to mention also playing 10-20 online, which is way tougher than live 10-25.) furthermore, your bankroll is too small. bottom line, quit playing these stakes, go down to 2-5 and make sure you can beat that first. or keep playing 10-25 if you feel like busting your 30k roll or whatever it is.

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You guys misunderstood me. I did not have him on QQ because obviously QQ would most almost always call the turn bet.

By the way, I finished up 3 thou for the session, but it could have been a lot more because of this one hand.

Mikech, I agree. I was way over my head. I am a great 2/5 and even 5/10 player live, 10-25 was definately pushing it. It was a one time thing. I do find that playing that game helped my game as I was forced to think more, but it is not something I will do again unless my roll gets over 100k.

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Having a bankroll of to play 5/10 and being good enough are 2 different things.

There are two types of players are that game:
1. The guy that beat 1/2 for a significant sample (ie months), then beat 2/4 over many months, then 3/6 for months. Learning at each stage. They had to prove they were good enough to beat each level before moving up. They won all the money they use for their bankroll in the game at the previous level. They didn't just luckbox it in a totally different game (and a tournament is nothing like a cash game at all - nothing)
2. People who have lots of money. These people are fish in a bowl just waiting to get eaten by the local shark because they didn't learn at each level and are missing a vast amount of knowledge. Sit there long enough and you will be lose. Then lose more. Keep losing. Result: Bust over and over and keep depositing and keep busting.


Guess which one you are.

Sorry to be direct, but you need to some harsh reality or you will have no money. I suspect like most people you will ignore this and go bust. Hope you think about it and move down. Good luck.

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Jack I totally understand, and obviously 10/25 was over my head, but I wanted to give it a shot that night. Let's get to the point though. I was not playing scared money at all at this table or I wouldn't have played. My poker bankroll is what it is, but I have money behind that. I sat down at the table with 3K and ended with 6k, a solid session. All I really want to know was if the fold was correct or not.

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you played this fine

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really? i dont think you can fold this to that many people live.

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50k behind in a 10/25 game? [censored].

Is that standard?

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I just deposited 500 into my account. I'm going to move back down to 3-6 and get my game back.

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soooo awesome. And he STILL gets honest advice. And will completely ignore it.

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Both players played it bad.

I see most players just calling the turn if they had quuens full and you should almost never put another player on a two outer.

I think a queen could be part of his range too. Also a combo flush draw.

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This dude kind of reminds me of that time someone ran up 400 to like 70k on FT, and then wouldn't listen when people here told him to cash out.

OP, do a search and learn. I think his name was Finbop or something like that.

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cliff notes

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Every weekend it seemed like I was making hundreds at the 1-2 game.

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I entered the nightly 100K on Pokerstars and got first for around 28K. This was the bankroll boost that I needed.

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I sat in 10-20 Monday and in 2 hours I lost 6 thousand dollars.

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you're the reason games are good

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Why does what I do with my money matter so much to you guys? All I'm asking is if the fold was correct or not. Like I said, if I could go back I would have check-called the turn and river. The player who made the move on me was a regular (from the way he knew a lot of the dealers/players/etc)...I just need some advice on how to play this hand from the sb with that flop. Check raise flop? Thanks.

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bld,

I obviously did not put him on QQ. I also did not put him on what he had obviously. I really put him on either 6-7 or 88. He wasn't bad enough to have made this move with Q8. This was a very loose game so it wasn't out of the question that he had a 7-x. Like I said, I believe I am correct in the idea that I should have check/callec

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It's not a bad fold. I was playing a game in the city last week and I bluffed out the best player at the table on a monotone board. He said, "it's not hard to get a good player to fold the best hand." This flop is sick and you made a lay down in hindsight was incorrect. I think with this board calling a 3k push on the turn is read dependent. But, I'm a donk.

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bld,

I obviously did not put him on QQ. I also did not put him on what he had obviously. I really put him on either 6-7 or 88. He wasn't bad enough to have made this move with Q8. This was a very loose game so it wasn't out of the question that he had a 7-x. Like I said, I believe I am correct in the idea that I should have check/callec

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you are very good at the hand reading, isn't it sick how they always seem to hit the board those lucky fish

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theres noone in the world who can tell you if this laydown is correct or not, it depends on the opponent and table dynamics. check-calling turn and then facing a river push puts you in the same situation as betting the turn like you did so i dont think thats an better option.
it really seems that you are not aware of some pretty basic concepts, if you really want to improve your game i suggest you work on that first.

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BNelly,

I play at the Borgata regularly. Who was the person who had 50K behind? and who was the UTG? If you know their names or can provide a description and can better analyze the hand based on their tendency.

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i woulda snap cizzalled

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How does UTG play?

Even without reads, most live players think AQ is the nuts here.

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If you bet the turn, you gotta call. I woulda check called the turn. If the turn was check/check. I bet/call the river. If the turn was check/call, I evaluate on the river, probably bet/call, but its could change if you had a strong read.

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How does UTG play?

Even without reads, most live players think AQ is the nuts here.

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That is just totally wrong - if a regular moves in w. AQ on that board given the action it's because he's already realized that AQ isn't good and turned it into a bluff, not for value. I do think that going into check-call mode would've been the best option, however once you call the turn you're committed to calling any relatively safe river, a lesson I've learned back in the day.

Kirk

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How does UTG play?

Even without reads, most live players think AQ is the nuts here.

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That is just totally wrong - if a regular moves in w. AQ on that board given the action it's because he's already realized that AQ isn't good and turned it into a bluff, not for value. I do think that going into check-call mode would've been the best option, however once you call the turn you're committed to calling any relatively safe river, a lesson I've learned back in the day.

Kirk

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uhhhh...are you f'ing stupid?? why would you post if you dont know what you are talking about? you are basically saying that the guy with AQ would be putting his opponent on AA/KK or a set...and then hoping hed fold after he leads for 400 then 1000, and gets allin'd for 2 more on Q778 with a flush draw. there's a lot more points as to why you are wrong but i dont feel like discussing all that. trust me, he is not thinking "bluff" with AQ

think before you post.

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uhhh... are you f'ing stupid?? why would you post if you don't know what you are talking about? blah blah blah blah blah. Think before you post. Or better yet, just don't post.

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How does UTG play?

Even without reads, most live players think AQ is the nuts here.

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That is just totally wrong - if a regular moves in w. AQ on that board given the action it's because he's already realized that AQ isn't good and turned it into a bluff, not for value. I do think that going into check-call mode would've been the best option, however once you call the turn you're committed to calling any relatively safe river, a lesson I've learned back in the day.

Kirk

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uhhhh...are you f'ing stupid?? why would you post if you dont know what you are talking about? you are basically saying that the guy with AQ would be putting his opponent on AA/KK or a set...and then hoping hed fold after he leads for 400 then 1000, and gets allin'd for 2 more on Q778 with a flush draw. there's a lot more points as to why you are wrong but i dont feel like discussing all that. trust me, he is not thinking "bluff" with AQ

think before you post.

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Dude, you need to at least make like 10 posts in BBV and THEN come here, you can't just create a gimmick account and instantly start trolling, way too obvious.

Kirk

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In all seriousness - wouldn't any 7 play the hand the same villain did? I guess it would come down to live reads... but if he senses you are on scared money (as some of the other posts indicated, you might have been playing this high) - he obv. is going to try to move you off your hand, which should give you (OP) all the more incentive to call.

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I didn't bother reading all the replies, but OP your bet-sizing was very problematic. AA why bet so small preflop, flop, and turn? Make it 250 to go PF, and then 85-90% lead every street. He would not have dared shoving on his 99 if you had done that. You sized your bets at around 65% and that's asking for trouble.