Taking Advantage of Mr. Preflop Aggressor
 

Villain in this hand has been going absolutely crazy preflop, open raising close to or above 50% of the possible hands preflop when it is unopened to him for at least 3 orbits. He does so again in early MP, and I threebet in the CO with 66. Everyone folds, he 4 bets, and I call.

Flop comes AQQ, and he bets, and I call. This flop either hit him huge, or he is scared, especially since I rarely 3 bet.

Turn comes a 3, suits irrelevent, he bets, and I raise.....

Thoughts?

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Villain in this hand has been going absolutely crazy preflop

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How about post-flop? Would he keep betting regardless of his hand?

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Villain in this hand has been going absolutely crazy preflop

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How about post-flop? Would he keep betting regardless of his hand?

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He wouldn't go multiple bets without a strong hand. He could keep firing blanks until faced with resistance basically. I obviously can't call down here, so I either fold or raise I believe...

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I assume this is a free showdown play/semibluff and you plan on checking the river hoping he will fold a 6 out hand like J9 or other bs. I like

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On top of that, I am hoping he folds any hand that doesn't include a Q or an A, so that goes up to KK...which should be foldable in this spot.

And a hand like KJ has so many outs against me, that I wouldn't want it continuing either. KJ has 13 outs against me lowly 66.

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On top of that, I am hoping he folds any hand that doesn't include a Q or an A, so that goes up to KK...which should be foldable in this spot.

And a hand like KJ has so many outs against me, that I wouldn't want it continuing either. KJ has 13 outs against me lowly 66.

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I wouldn't want to get in a habit of trying to play this big a pot against a guy who caps preflop and bets both streets into a you who he has to perceive as a tight player. You don't give us nearly enough information to know if he can fold anything postflop or how agressively he will push JJ on this board after you call his flop bet. That being said, if you are intent on taking a stand on this hand and showing this down, then I really like a free SD raise here and give him a chance to fold bigger pairs and draws. Overall though the whole thing is -EV unless there is a read you aren't giving us.

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Sometimes even a blind squirrel finds the nuts. I'd have folded on the flop. Pre-flop, fold or cold call if you think you others will come in behind you.

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I obviously can't call down here

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Why not?

Anyway, if you are going to turn your hand into a bluff it is cheaper to just raise flop and bet turn.

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Pre-flop, fold or cold call if you think you others will come in behind you.

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I think a 3-bet is pretty standard here.

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Pre-flop, fold or cold call if you think you others will come in behind you.

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I think a 3-bet is pretty standard here.

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With a bigger pair, Yes. Remember he is only open raising 50% of the time (which is a lot but he still has something better than average) and he is in early MP (4 off the button.

The problem with isolating with 66 is he could easily have 77 or better and then you're way behind. You need the other callers to give you odds to hit the set. You still have 3 players to act behind you and you could get 4-bet as happened in this case. You're just marginally ahead against 2 overcards, and have to dodge overcards on the board guessing which 2 he may have.

When you isolate, you are hoping to have him dominated, either by you having a bigger pair, bigger kicker, him having just one overcard or a hand that you can outplay him by virtue of you position.

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BillD,

I gave villain the top half of hands, and stoved it:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,090,737,648 games 0.032 secs 34,085,551,500 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.826% 54.40% 00.42% 593383220 4623441.00 { 6h6s }
Hand 1: 45.174% 44.75% 00.42% 488107546 4623441.00 { 33+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J4s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, A2o+, K5o+, Q7o+, J7o+, T7o+, 98o }

It looks like we're pretty healthy, considering we have position, positive equity, and that the blinds give us a nice bonus

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Thank you snowball!!!

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Interesting. I guess I need to grow a pair:)

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Preflop is good, but watch out. Just because he's opening light certainly doesn't mean he's capping light. Frequently the range for that kind of player goes up very rapidly at bets beyond a PF raise + continuation bets go in. Personally I think the crux of this hand is how often you think he folds 99 or something.

It's a freeshowdown raise, lots of things have to be in play.

Enough of the time he has to either fold a better hand or one with lots of outs.
We don't need to call a 3bet or a 3bet is never coming.
If our only options were call/fold we would calldown and feel good about it.

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I am clearly done with the hand if he puts one more bet into the pot. If he calls the turn, I am checking behind on the river. If he raises the turn, my cards fly into the muck...

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I like it. This shuts down any possible draws /and or live cards he can hit and gives you a chance to take it down right here. He may also even fold a better pp.

I guess your folding if 3-bet.

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Pre-flop, fold or cold call if you think you others will come in behind you.

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I think a 3-bet is pretty standard here.

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I dont like calling PF. Because raiser is aggro and I want to get hu w/ him IP.