Is this whole hand a leak? 200NL
 

UTG is standard tag

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $235.41
BB: $836.30
UTG: $419.50
Hero (MP): $194.00
CO: $857.80
BTN: $108.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $8.00</font>, Hero calls $8.00, 3 folds, BB calls $6.00
Uncalled bet of $2.00 returned to BB

Flop: ($26) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $20.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $70.00</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $248.00</font>, Hero calls all-in for $110.00

Re: Is this whole hand a leak? 200NL
 

Generally fold preflop. I'd generally just call the flop.

Once you've done what you did (and your raise is kinda small) I'd have to go with it.

But overall a plumber is in order.

Re: Is this whole hand a leak? 200NL
 

PF is meh...post-flop looks fine.

Re: Is this whole hand a leak? 200NL
 

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(and your raise is kinda small)

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Huh?

Re: Is this whole hand a leak? 200NL
 

preflop is fine, i often just call flop. Hes not going to fold Kx and AA here, and all the other hands usually just check turn.

Re: Is this whole hand a leak? 200NL
 

fold prf to TAG, don't raise flop unless you know he likes to C bet a lot

Re: Is this whole hand a leak? 200NL
 

This board is such an easy c-bet for villain that I can't see how raising flop can ever be that bad here. Calling is obv fine too though.

Re: Is this whole hand a leak? 200NL
 

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This board is such an easy c-bet for villain that I can't see how raising flop can ever be that bad here. Calling is fine too though.

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because all his random hands that missed often just checkfold and give up

Re: Is this whole hand a leak? 200NL
 

agree with loosbastard, villains cbetting alot here, i like the whole hand op, wp.

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because all his random hands that missed often just checkfold and give up

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True...which is why calling isn't bad. OTOH your draw isn't exactly disguised which makes me tend to get aggro w/ this. If you're raising this flop w/ sets, I think you need to be raising here some % of the time as well.

Re: Is this whole hand a leak? 200NL
 

I'm guessing that this is one of those plays that are marginal overall. There will probably be some players that agree with it, and others that hate it. Here's my opinion.

PF call is fine. But folding is also good.

The flop raise is also ok, and you are obviously committed to calling after that.

However, the only hands he folds are hands that check the turn a good % of the time. Depending on how stubborn he is with a hand like JJ, you may want to just float the flop and bet the turn.

I think the standard player will give up to a flop call and turn bet with JJ-. But there are some that won't fold to a float. In those cases, raising the flop is better IMO.

Re: Is this whole hand a leak? 200NL
 

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because all his random hands that missed often just checkfold and give up

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True...which is why calling isn't bad. OTOH your draw isn't exactly disguised which makes me tend to get aggro w/ this. If you're raising this flop w/ sets, I think you need to be raising here some % of the time as well.

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i just float lots with crap to disguise my hands [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

But yeah obv raising flop a % of the time is fine and good for metagame, vs a random who prob sucks tho you don't really need to worry a huge amount about mixing it up - they don't pay attention enough

Re: Is this whole hand a leak? 200NL
 

Preflop is OK if you think this might go 4-way and always goes at least 3-way.

I'd just call the flop. He's firing into 2 other players, which leads me to believe he has TP or better a good % of the time.

Re: Is this whole hand a leak? 200NL
 

the only part of this hand that doesnt really look like a leak to me is calling the shove once you have committed yourself. i much prefer a fold preflop given your position, although postflop is fairly opponent dependent so if villain has a very high cbet% then this might be okay.

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Preflop is meh. I nearly always call this on the button, but w/e. Flop is standard vs some, and suicide vs others.

Re: Is this whole hand a leak? 200NL
 

I dont know why people say that UTG thinks this is an easy 3bet? 2way definitely but 3 way a lot of people CBet a lot less

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flatcall flop. pf is fine, just mix it up fold/call.

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Twisted Echo wins the thread.

Re: Is this whole hand a leak? 200NL
 

good call pre-flop. your implied odds seem high enough + you have position(steal opportunities).

It looks like the semi-bluff steal backfired on you, as you'd prefer not to push as a 2-1 favorite(overpair or kings).

you're getting greater than 2-1 odds, so you should call, unless you put Villain on a set.