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LoLoTrickyU 08-22-2007 11:39 PM

AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
Villain is 20/14/2.0

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $99.40
BB: $232.10
UTG: $190.40
Hero (CO): $197.00
BTN: $161.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $27.00</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $65.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $197.00</font>, UTG folds
Uncalled bet of $132.00 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $133.00

I opted to shove here but really think I made villain fold KK here. Villain put in $65 out of his $200 stack preflop and folded. Should I have just flat called and gotten our stacks in on the flop or just shove like I did? Thx. Gl.

cbboy 08-22-2007 11:40 PM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
Push is std.

Irish Mafia 08-22-2007 11:41 PM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
SSNL

Proofrock 08-22-2007 11:43 PM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
kind of impossible to go wrong with AA 100bb deep in a 4-bet pot, as long as you don't fold.

Both flat calling and shoving are fine.

LoLoTrickyU 08-23-2007 12:05 AM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
thanks for the solid feedback. no thanks to guys like irish mafia who make 2+2 a less valuable resource.

loosbastard 08-23-2007 12:23 AM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
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really think I made villain fold KK here.

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lol

The Velour Fog 08-23-2007 12:30 AM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
this is just...lol

and

SSNL

KingGeedorah 08-23-2007 01:12 AM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
loltickedu

Mench 08-23-2007 01:22 AM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
flat call shove flop.

AAismyfriend 08-23-2007 01:33 AM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
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I opted to shove here but really think I made villain fold KK here.

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lol

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thanks for the solid feedback. no thanks to guys like irish mafia who make 2+2 a less valuable resource.

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lol.....right

dchz 08-23-2007 01:40 AM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
the obvious answer is fold to the 4 bet

jfish 08-23-2007 01:45 AM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
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thanks for the solid feedback. no thanks to guys like irish mafia who make 2+2 a less valuable resource.

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agreed.

Irish Mafia 08-23-2007 09:46 AM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
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thanks for the solid feedback. no thanks to guys like irish mafia who make 2+2 a less valuable resource.

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agreed.

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Thanks, for the support jfish.

FireStorm 08-23-2007 09:52 AM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
Shoving here would be standard, as very, very few people in 1/2 NL 4 bet to $65 of a $200 stack with any intention of folding.

To guarantee getting it all in though, 100% of the time, you could smooth here and get it all in on any flop. Just teach yourself not to be incredibly sick when the flop is KQ9 all spades.

Isura 08-23-2007 10:58 AM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
Who knew recallme had a little bro.

Nielsio 08-23-2007 11:02 AM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
micro-nl

Laetus 08-23-2007 11:03 AM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
haha

Unknown Soldier 08-23-2007 11:10 AM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
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pocket 5s

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Wyldpytch 08-23-2007 11:10 AM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
why can't people just follow the rules and post where they are supposed to post? i am not trying to be a d#ck, but I think it is pretty irritating with those who do not care about this

Irish Mafia 08-23-2007 11:13 AM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
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why can't people just follow the rules and post where they are supposed to post? i am not trying to be a d#ck, but I think it is pretty irritating with those who do not care about this

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Yeah, he ignores the simple rules and i'm the one who makes 2+2 a "less valuable resource"...

FireStorm 08-23-2007 11:44 AM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
I think the point is that the time spent blasting the guy is the same as the time to give an informative reply, so why the former over the latter? Simply say that he should shove b/c his opponent is snap calling 9x/10, and then move on to another post.

Wyldpytch 08-23-2007 11:47 AM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
yeah, the next NL100 hand someone posts, cause the nl200 got answered.

Wyldpytch 08-23-2007 11:50 AM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
what's the point of the rules if you are gonna make exceptions

LoLoTrickyU 08-23-2007 04:45 PM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
Whats the point of being alive if you're a loser?

jfish 08-23-2007 05:13 PM

Re: AA gets 4-bet pre-flop, flat call or shove? 100bb deep
 
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thanks for the solid feedback. no thanks to guys like irish mafia who make 2+2 a less valuable resource.

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agreed.

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Thanks, for the support jfish.

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just messing around, im obv not serious. internet sarcasm is probably retarded.


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