Top 2, can I fold?
 

Villain is 25/21/4

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $202.05
BB: $236.95
UTG: $39.00
Hero (MP): $218.60
CO: $271.95
BTN: $197.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $6.00, BB calls $5.00

Flop: ($21) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $16.00</font>, SB folds, BB calls $16.00

Turn: ($53) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $37.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $80.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $213.95</font>

Pot Size: $346.95

Easy call obviously, but what hands do you expect villain to show up with here? My betting indicates so much strength so I doubt he is bluffing here. Any comments appreciated. Thanks. GL.

Re: Top 2, can I fold?
 

Why are you raising the turn if you're considering folding to a push?

Re: Top 2, can I fold?
 

Looks like 66/44 given flop texture...but I'm a station and can't fold this.

Re: Top 2, can I fold?
 

Possibly the 66 or 44, maybe AKs, KK

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Possibly the 66 or 44, maybe AKs, KK

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huh?

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Why are you raising the turn if you're considering folding to a push?

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Re: Top 2, can I fold?
 

you cant fold. and they show up with A4 A6 enough here. stick it in.

Re: Top 2, can I fold?
 

I usually call turn here to disguise your hand more. There's very few hands with more than 2 outs against you and raising lets your opponent fold a lot of weaker holdings much easier. Either shove or call river depending on read/bet size but folding is way too weak, cooler if he has you beat.

Re: Top 2, can I fold?
 

Why did he donk the turn like that with a strong hand?
This seems kinda weird to me.

A6s, A4s, 46s (6 combos - 2 of each and he is borderline sLag so I think these can be in his range)
44, 66 (6 combos - 3 of each)

So with 3-1 odds you have to call.


It's never AK/QQ [tho I wonder if flat calling with a small percent of JJ/QQ/AKs/AQs is a good line once in a while just mix it up against non ratards (or even retards?) - like JcJd/QhQs/AKcc/AQdd]

Re: Top 2, can I fold?
 

Your minrase on the turn induced a bluff.

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My betting indicates so much strength so I doubt he is bluffing here.

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sounds like you picked a good line then for an ace high drawless rainbow board [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Re: Top 2, can I fold?
 

you're ahead here like 85% of the time. get the money in.

Re: Top 2, can I fold?
 

Here are a couple reasonable hand ranges for villan.

The first one is prob the most realistic.


Board: Ah 6c 4s Qd

This is his range if you decide he can't have a draw.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 29.545% 29.55% 00.00% 104 0.00 { AsQc }
Hand 1: 70.455% 70.45% 00.00% 248 0.00 { 66, 44, 64s }



This is with the draw included:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.970% 46.97% 00.00% 248 0.00 { AsQc }
Hand 1: 53.030% 53.03% 00.00% 280 0.00 { 66, 44, 64s, 53s }




Here is a wider range, but his stats can't really encompass this range.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 66.234% 66.23% 00.00% 612 0.00 { AsQc }
Hand 1: 33.766% 33.77% 00.00% 312 0.00 { 66, 44, A4s, 64s, 53s, 64o }

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Why are you raising the turn if you're considering folding to a push?

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Hes trying to build a pot and play for value.

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What are you talking about? A4s and A6s are definitely part of his range.

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What are you talking about? A4s and A6s are definitely part of his range.

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A 25/21 aggro cold calls in the blind with A6s?

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Why are you raising the turn if you're considering folding to a push?

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Hes trying to build a pot and play for value.

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why would you want to build a pot if you're folding to further action

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What are you talking about? A4s and A6s are definitely part of his range.

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A 25/21 aggro cold calls in the blind with A6s?

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He may squeeze from time to time but that depends on what he thinks about hero. I don`t think we can reasonably rule out those hands given his stats.

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What are you talking about? A4s and A6s are definitely part of his range.

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A 25/21 aggro cold calls in the blind with A6s?

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He may squeeze from time to time but that depends on what he thinks about hero. I don`t think we can reasonably rule out those hands given his stats.

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This type of player is rarely cold calling in any position, and when he does its not with A6s OOP.

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What are you talking about? A4s and A6s are definitely part of his range.

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A 25/21 aggro cold calls in the blind with A6s?

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He may squeeze from time to time but that depends on what he thinks about hero. I don`t think we can reasonably rule out those hands given his stats.

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This type of player is rarely cold calling in any position, and when he does its not with A6s OOP.

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I won`t really get into an argument over this but I think you are wrong. He almost certainly won`t fold given his VIP and the fact it is 3-way. As said he may sometimes squeeze but that depends on a lot of factors.

Re: Top 2, can I fold?
 

He didn't cold call, he overcalled.