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YKMM 08-22-2007 08:39 AM

PLO $50 - Nut straight becomes 2nd nuts on the turn, very awkward spot
 
I have $27.90 left. Villain is a 70/20/1.5 donk.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($179.35)
Hero ($57.15)
Button ($47.75)
SB ($12.75)
BB ($112.65)
UTG ($39.90)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1.75</font>, Hero calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($5.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $5.5</font>, MP calls $5.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $27.5</font>, SB ca+lls $5.50 (All-In), MP calls $22.

Turn: ($71.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $68.75</font>, Hero ......

lucid75 08-22-2007 08:49 AM

Re: PLO $50 - Nut straight becomes 2nd nuts on the turn, very awkward
 
Reads on MP? Previous bluffs on scare cards like this?

alavet 08-22-2007 08:54 AM

Re: PLO $50 - Nut straight becomes 2nd nuts on the turn, very awkward
 
folds
standart, i think

YKMM 08-22-2007 09:00 AM

Re: PLO $50 - Nut straight becomes 2nd nuts on the turn, very awkward
 
I did not see any previous bluffs on scare cards like this.

MP is overly loose and can be too aggressive with draws postflop.

What concerns me the most in this hand is that villain is certain to pound any 8-high straight hand.

mephisto 09-15-2007 10:31 PM

Re: PLO $50 - Nut straight becomes 2nd nuts on the turn, very awkward
 
Hey, I'm trying to read the old post from this forum in order to learn PLO and this hand is bugging me. Is it really standard to fold in this spot? I really don't know about this one, anybody here has any further comment beyond these original answers? ty

wazz 09-15-2007 11:32 PM

Re: PLO $50 - Nut straight becomes 2nd nuts on the turn, very awkward
 
Given the amount of money behind, no, it's not a fold.

pete fabrizio 09-16-2007 12:01 AM

Re: PLO $50 - Nut straight becomes 2nd nuts on the turn, very awkward
 
this is a really easy call. you may be chopping, you may be ahead, you may suck out to tie, you may suck out to win, and you're getting better than 3-1.

mephisto 09-16-2007 04:31 AM

Re: PLO $50 - Nut straight becomes 2nd nuts on the turn, very awkward
 
Thanks, that's why I bumped this hand up because somehow I didn't agree with alavet's response yet I am not experienced enough to fully retort it with authority.

RoundTower 09-16-2007 05:16 AM

Re: PLO $50 - Nut straight becomes 2nd nuts on the turn, very awkward
 
I think this spot is interesting if you have more behind.

Parlay Slow 09-16-2007 06:14 PM

Re: PLO $50 - Nut straight becomes 2nd nuts on the turn, very awkward
 
You have 12% equity vs some random 89** hand. So you better be chopping a lot...

pete fabrizio 09-16-2007 06:34 PM

Re: PLO $50 - Nut straight becomes 2nd nuts on the turn, very awkward
 
[ QUOTE ]
Thanks, that's why I bumped this hand up because somehow I didn't agree with alavet's response yet I am not experienced enough to fully retort it with authority.

[/ QUOTE ]

as a rule of thumb, don't listen to alavet.

justaPlayer 09-16-2007 09:02 PM

Re: PLO $50 - Nut straight becomes 2nd nuts on the turn, very awkward
 
Odds calc is on my other CPU, but I'd lean toward a fold here, despite having so little left. Flop flatcall from MP almost has to indicate a draw to the higher straight. Then he leads. He's there.

alavet 09-17-2007 01:07 AM

Re: PLO $50 - Nut straight becomes 2nd nuts on the turn, very awkward
 
oh sorry hvnt noticed staks
i thiought you was 100BB deep
now its insta call, you have to


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