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Question for all of you. I was at Showboat this weekend and I heard a few of the players on my 1/2 NLH game talking about a big Poker Tournament at Showboat in September. Does anyone know anything about this? Or is this just a rumor?

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I'm not sure I'd necessarily say it's a "big" tournament but definitely something bigger than they normally do. It's on Saturday, September 15th at 11:00 a.m. $225 + 25. They are running turbo satellites for $25 + 5 also. I believe there is a $20,000 guaranteed prize pool.

The structure isn't the same as the daily tournaments - most notably is that antes will be included. $10,000 in starting chips. I talked to the poker room manager and he says they are going to really try and push this in an attempt to get the first place money > $20,000.

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How often are the satellites getting off?

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It's not a rumor mcbride. It is true. Showboat is hosting a Guarantee Tournament. It not a 20 grand prize pool though. It's a 20 grand FIRST PLACE- guaranteed. Registration for it is open now and you can buy a seat outright at the Boat for 225+25 or you can stop in and play a 25+5 Satelitte for the seat. It's a Turbo Satelitte with ten minute blind levels. They have them about every other hour, all day, every day. The sign ups are always up and they drop them as soon as they get ten people. 30 bucks for a chance to win $20,000 isn't a bad deal. They are hoping to get a great turn-out and exceed the guarantee. I think they will.

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I played in a Satelitte at Showboat yesterday and took home the seat. It took about 40 minutes to get the satelitte running but I just killed some time on a 1-2NL. It was quick and painless. Most of the people registered with me were just there to donkey their chips to me. I could have bought the seat cause 250 isn't that much, but why buy it when you can win it easily. I don't know how often they run the satelittes but they had two in the three hours I was there.

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How can Showboat not have any info on this on thier website?

Seems like there might be a lot of fine print to this. What is the payout structure to guarantee $20k to the winner? I don't feel like doing the math but wouldn't that require a TON of people, more than Showboat could handle?

I'd like to see info on the structure as well. Seems odd there is no info available.

Did I miss it somewhere?

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I'm pretty interested in hearing more about this, if the payout table is sane and I don't have to work that weekend, I'll be there.

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How can Showboat not have any info on this on thier website?

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Yeah... that is kind of ridiculous. I was at Showboat last week and have played in about a 10 tournaments there this year. Still, there was nothing posted about this tournament at the property itself, and I have not received anything in mail. In contrast, I've been to the Hilton exactly once in my life to play poker, and this week I received a postcard about the New Jersey State Poker Championship that it will host next month. I guess Harrahs feels that marketing is for other casinos.

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It could certainly be more people than their poker room has seen at one time, but it's not that big a number. (But it'd surely require extra tables, which would require CCC approval, which might be keeping them from marketing...although pretty much every big tourney announcement I see says in the fine print that the event is subject to CCC approval.)

Anyway, if $20k for 1st is, say, 25%, the prize pool is $80k. $80k/$225 = 356 players. 30% and you can do it with just under 300 players. I don't know Showboat's normal payout percentages, but a similar size daily tournament at the Taj pays 34.7% for 1st.

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It should probably be noted that the Borgata Poker Open Main Event (a WPT tournament) starts on 9/16. The Borgata is holding a supersatellite for the ME on 9/15, apparently the same day as the Showboat tourny. The buy-in for the Borgata supersatellite is $250 + $30.

Also, for what it's worth, Borgata's "$50,000 Friday" tournament may be a good analogy for what Showboat is trying to accomplish. Borgata's Friday daily costs $250 + $30 to enter, and it typically draws over 300 players. First prize usually exceeds $20,000. I've been there on Fridays when the number of players has exceeded 400 and first-place exceeded $30,000. Heck, I played in Borgata's "$10,000 Wednesday" tournament last week, and it drew 457 players.

So the demand is out there in AC for a good tournament with a fair structure (as the Borgata tournies always are). Can Showboat pull this off on the same weekend that WPT is in town for the Borgata? Who knows, but one thing that makes me skeptical is Showboat poker room management. It frequently has problems running its daily tournaments with only 100 players, as many posters here have noted. I'm not sure the Showboat is ready for a big field tournament.

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So these are SNG satellites and not scheduled satellites?

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Never mind, had I paid attention while reading the whole post, I would have had my answer.

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I am thinking they are going to hold this tournament in one of the large ballrooms. That is where they were going to have the Opie&Anthony tournament before it was cancelled.

Hopefully they use common sense for this tournament and not start it 11-handed.

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I found out from one of the people in suits that the tourney will be in the downstairs ballroom on Saturday September 15th at 11am.

IDK - I think I might give this tourney a shot. I don't think I can make it through the field for the ME @ Borgata for their satellite. I have a better chance at making it through a large part of this (probably) weak field and cash at Showboat.

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Wow lot's of stuff to write today on this hmm..where should i start..

Borgata is hosting is Super Satelitte day on 9/15. They have a 250+30 at 10AM which will put you into Event 12, which is the main event, but the field for this tournament is going to be so big that chances of pulling money out of your investment into the satellite are slim to none. There are four more Satellites on Saturday, two are 500+50 with a 1 in 20 chance, one is 1000+70 and the other is 2000+100. All of which are for the Event 12.

I don't think Showboat is trying to compete with these Satellites. What they can do though is take all the overflow from the Borgata and the other rooms. When the WSOP and WPT come to Atlantic City all the poker rooms here are filled to the brim. I do think they are trying to cater to the smaller players. I know I wouldn't pay the money Borgata is asking to compete against the field they are going to draw. Showboat is going to be much smaller. They are capping this tournament at 400, if they get that many, so I would think my odds to win 20 grand are solid. Plus if I can get into this tourney with a $30 Satellite, I'm golden.

The payout structure hasn't been published anywhere yet, and I'm guessing it is a CCC issue. I know the Showboat poker room is under new management, and he is cleaning the place up nicely. The dealers and floors have been trained well. Their daily tournaments always fill now, no matter which one you play, 11AM, 2PM or 7PM and the buy-in's during the week are only 65 bucks. $100 on the weekends, and $125 on Saturday night. The 10,000 chip start is great for my play too because it gives me the oppurtunity to make a few mistakes or be sucked out on and not be crushed to a short stack. Their blind structure is solid for their tourney's so I don't see why this big tournament would be any different. I know they are having 25 minute blind rounds for the main tourney on the 15th and the blinds are starting at 25-50.

The payout structure normally at Showboat is top 10%, with first taking around 40%. Doing the math, I'm guessing that at around 260 they will meet their guarantee. Anything over and the payout is going to be more that.

If players are worried about the field being small, they shouldn't. It a guarantee. If only 100 people show, you have a 1 in 100 chance of taking home 20 grand.

The worst things about this Tourney, i.e. the possible small turn out, the WPT competition, etc, are all positives for the player who is looking to make money. The smaller the field the better the chance for you to win. It is no lose situation.

I do know that they are going to host this tournament in one of their ballrooms and that the poker room upstairs will host only cash games that day. Showboat has handled the WSOP before and they have done the WSOP Wall Street. They can handle this.

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Hopefully they use common sense for this tournament and not start it 11-handed.

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Showboat has huge tables in their room. They were made to Seat 11 players, if need be. I haven't seen them run an 11 handed tournament since new management took over though.

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When did the Showboat poker room go under new management?

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The Saturday night tourney fills up to 11 at a table... over 120+ players.

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The Saturday night tourney fills up to 11 at a table... over 120+ players.

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I was going to say, becuase every 7PM tournament I register for, it always starts off 11-handed. Now the 11AM tournaments are different. Those do not have as high of a turnout, usually 50-60, so there is no need to start off 11-handed.

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It's not a rumor mcbride. It is true. Showboat is hosting a Guarantee Tournament. It not a 20 grand prize pool though. It's a 20 grand FIRST PLACE- guaranteed. Registration for it is open now and you can buy a seat outright at the Boat for 225+25 or you can stop in and play a 25+5 Satelitte for the seat. It's a Turbo Satelitte with ten minute blind levels. They have them about every other hour, all day, every day. The sign ups are always up and they drop them as soon as they get ten people. 30 bucks for a chance to win $20,000 isn't a bad deal. They are hoping to get a great turn-out and exceed the guarantee. I think they will.

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Wow is this typical on satellite seats where they take a house cut twice? They are getting $50 total from the ten players for each satellite. Then the prize includes another $25 for the final tourney. I do realize that there is an increased house cost for running satellites. But is it double what it costs to run the tourney?

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$5 is a nice round number. Much easier to do things in multiples of $5, instead of $2.50. $25 extra rake is not that bad, $25 to the buy-in for the winner, and then you have to pay the dealer and house of operating expenses. Very few poker tournaments I have seen have a total different then a multiple of $5. The buy-in for the Showboat tournaments is $53+$12, much easier for cashiers to handle then $53+$10

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Can anyone give more specfics on the structure of these satellites?

I'm probably going down to AC on Friday with my brother and we were thinking of entering. We were going to try to play in different ones though, that way we both have a chance of winning. Will it be busy enough on a Friday that we won't have to wait too long?

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When did the Showboat poker room go under new management?

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The poker room boss left in the beginning of May. The new manager, Chris, was a pit manager before and took over recently - like a month or two ago I think. A few dual rate supervisors were promoted to pit managers and a few dealers made the jump to dual rate supervisors.

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SOrry about the mis-information. I am usually there in the mornings, and they used to do 11 handed for all their tournaments. They don't do 11's for the 11am or 2pm's anymore, at least not while I'm there, so I figured they did away with it all together.

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The structure on the Satellites are 10 minute blind rounds. You start with 1000 in chips like a normal sit-n-go. The blinds start at 25-50 and antes come in the fourth round. Is that enough ifo on the structure of the satellites or would yo guys like for me to find out more?

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The structure on the Satellites are 10 minute blind rounds. You start with 1000 in chips like a normal sit-n-go. The blinds start at 25-50 and antes come in the fourth round.

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I don't play casino Sng, but my god I hope your wrong! 20 BB stacks, 10 minute levels of live play!!!??? What a waste of money. I guess at $30 it would be a cheap way to try and luck your way into the event.

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The poker room boss left in the beginning of May. The new manager, Chris, was a pit manager before and took over recently - like a month or two ago I think. A few dual rate supervisors were promoted to pit managers and a few dealers made the jump to dual rate supervisors.

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Cool, I never really noticed any changes, but then again, I have only been there one time since since beginning of June. Will probably be in town in 2 weeks and might have to take a chance at the sattellite after I donk out out of one of the Showboat tournaments.

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The structure on the Satellites are 10 minute blind rounds. You start with 1000 in chips like a normal sit-n-go. The blinds start at 25-50 and antes come in the fourth round.

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I don't play casino Sng, but my god I hope your wrong! 20 BB stacks, 10 minute levels of live play!!!??? What a waste of money. I guess at $30 it would be a cheap way to try and luck your way into the event.

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I'm pretty positive SyrialKilla is accurate with the structure information. Trust me. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I played in the $53+12 2pm at Showboat on Friday and it was 10 handed as stated earlier.

Made the final table but only 60-some entrants so the top 6 paid...of course I busted out in 8th. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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i was there saturday and sunday did anyone see me? Saturday i was in a green/pink/yellow Polo and sunday i was wearing some burbon street shirt with a guitar on it
I was playin 1/2 :P

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Hey guys..wanted to stop in and let you all know that the info for the Tournament is up on the Harrah's website finally. www.harrahs.com, Atlantic City, Showboat, Poker. It's pretty much all the same stuff we have been talking about here but just incase someone needed some clarification maybe you could find it there.

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Even better: http://www.harrahs.com/EventsDetail.do?d...OKER+TOURNAMENT

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I see that this tournament is being hosted by Alicia Lee. Who is this? Anyone have any info?

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How long are the rounds?

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Question - did Showboat get rid of their 11pm tournaments? They're not listed on the website, and I was planning to go down later tonight.

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Question - did Showboat get rid of their 11pm tournaments? They're not listed on the website, and I was planning to go down later tonight.

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Yeah, no more 11pm tournaments at Showboat on ANY day of the week. This happened about 7 months ago.

Looking for late night tournament action - the Trump Taj tournament at midnight is pretty much your only hope. Hilton has a 10PM, Bally's has a 9PM and a midnight(speed tournament). Other then that...your SOL.

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did any 1 play any of the $30 (sat) on friday night

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the ME has 25 minute levels

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did any 1 play any of the $30 (sat) on friday night

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if you are talking about the $30 STT, these are a joke 1000 in chips with 10 min blinds blinds start at 25/50, played one on sunday. Plus its 11 players and only 1st place gets a seat, big juice for the house.

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did any 1 play any of the $30 (sat) on friday night

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if you are talking about the $30 STT, these are a joke 1000 in chips with 10 min blinds blinds start at 25/50, played one on sunday. Plus its 11 players and only 1st place gets a seat, big juice for the house.

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did any 1 play any of the $30 (sat) on friday night

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if you are talking about the $30 STT, these are a joke 1000 in chips with 10 min blinds blinds start at 25/50, played one on sunday. Plus its 11 players and only 1st place gets a seat, big juice for the house.

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Wait, it's $22.73 + $7.27, not $25 + $5 (as I've heard reported here earlier)?

*If* they really are running those sats 11-handed, it's further example of why I'll never play at the Showboat again. I wonder if an employee in the room is shadow registering the 11th player and lifting the $30 for themselves - again, *if* they really are running 11 handed and paying one place.