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HouseCalls 08-19-2007 12:13 PM

Status Ray Zee\'s Limit Hold\'em Book?
 
Sorry if I missed this as I have been gone for a while. Last I heard Ray Zee was writing a limit hold'em book, Winning High Stakes and Short Handed Hold ’em; Expert Limit Hold ’em for Serious Cash Game & Internet Players . Is this still in the works?

Also, in searching back I did not find a recent "2+2 publication schedule" type thread. Am I missing it? If not a new one would be greatly appreciated.

dirty banana2007 08-19-2007 12:54 PM

Re: Status Ray Zee\'s Limit Hold\'em Book?
 
It's due in september i think.

there was a thread, but i cant remember the title.

there was something mentioned in the june or july 2+2 magazine with the publication dates for several of the 2+2 books including the PNL, SNG and Harrington books.

dirty banana2007 08-19-2007 12:57 PM

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http://www.twoplustwo.com/magazine/current/

ChicagoPoker 08-19-2007 02:07 PM

Re: Status Ray Zee\'s Limit Hold\'em Book?
 
I will be buying this for sure.

Pokerfarian 08-19-2007 03:14 PM

Re: Status Ray Zee\'s Limit Hold\'em Book?
 
Anyone know how this will compare to Stoxtrader's book?

ChicagoPoker 08-19-2007 03:28 PM

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Anyone know how this will compare to Stoxtrader's book?

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It's not even out yet. How could anyone compare it to anything?

Mason Malmuth 08-19-2007 04:32 PM

Re: Status Ray Zee\'s Limit Hold\'em Book?
 
Hi HouseCalls:

I'm sorry to say but this book is now indefinitely delayed.

Best wishes,
Mson

JackCase 08-19-2007 04:36 PM

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Hi HouseCalls:

I'm sorry to say but this book is now indefinitely delayed.

Best wishes,
Mson

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Anyone know how this will compare to Daniel Negreanu's indefinitely delayed book?

uDevil 08-19-2007 05:18 PM

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Hi HouseCalls:

I'm sorry to say but this book is now indefinitely delayed.

Best wishes,
Mson

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Nooooo!

*sigh*

Time to hit the No Limit books I guess....

dirty banana2007 08-19-2007 06:51 PM

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Hi HouseCalls:

I'm sorry to say but this book is now indefinitely delayed.

Best wishes,
Mson

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Nooooo!

*sigh*

Time to hit the No Limit books I guess....

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So if anyone has a completed manuscript for a good PLO book this may be the chance your waiting for [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

MASTERHOLMES 08-19-2007 07:40 PM

Re: Status Ray Zee\'s Limit Hold\'em Book?
 
how did we get from " In addition, we now have the manuscript for our long awaited next book, World-Class High-Stakes and Shorthanded Limit Hold 'em by Ray Zee and David Fromm. We expect to be releasing it in either late September or early october"

to

"but this book is now indefinitely delayed."

the inquiring minds want to know , why , how come, and what does this mean for two plus two aka can you can release an differnt book, is there an opening.
that statement about it being delayed means to me that it will not be coming out at all in publisher talk right?
I can only imagine that the book was delayed for the manuscript didnt work out, and enough time and energy was spennt on it so it would be too exhausting to further do so..

Soundwave 08-19-2007 10:12 PM

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this sucks

MicroBob 08-19-2007 10:27 PM

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weird.

Mason Malmuth 08-19-2007 10:51 PM

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I can only imagine that the book was delayed for the manuscript didnt work out, and enough time and energy was spennt on it so it would be too exhausting to further do so.

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Hi MASTERHOLMES:

Your quote is a pretty good summary of what has happened, and everyone involved is very disappointed. That's all I have to say at this time.

Best wishes,
Mason

Adman 08-19-2007 11:13 PM

Re: Status Ray Zee\'s Limit Hold\'em Book?
 
Wow, awful news. I was really, really looking forward to this one more than any other 2+2 title ever. I guess now we just have to hope that D&B actually manage to release their shorthanded book. Whether or not that will ever happen is anyones guess.

fraac 08-20-2007 12:24 PM

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Do we need more limit books? I don't see it. HU you're meant to work out for yourself.

HouseCalls 08-20-2007 01:58 PM

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Wow, awful news. I was really, really looking forward to this one more than any other 2+2 title ever. I guess now we just have to hope that D&B actually manage to release their shorthanded book. Whether or not that will ever happen is anyones guess.

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For some reason I was afraid of this which is why I posted this. I guess all projects can't be a success. Thanks for all your good work Mason... and back to reading Stox I go ...

Municipal Hare 08-20-2007 02:16 PM

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Wow, awful news. I was really, really looking forward to this one more than any other 2+2 title ever.

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Yeah, arg. First krishan's book falls through and now this. Stox's Tough Hold 'em Games surveys a wide array of solid winning concepts, but I certainly hope it's not the last word on shorthanded limit.

Mason's comments hint that this manuscript would need major reconstruction to be publishable. Based on Fromm's DVD lessons alone, I can't fathom that the hours he put into World Class bore no fruit. He should take the best 100-150pp. of the manuscript and bounce it off StellarWind, Entity, milesdyson, and other 6-max gurus. Even if the end result read like a Pynchon novel with the pages out of order, I'd shell out cash for it.

uDevil 08-20-2007 02:54 PM

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Based on Fromm's DVD lessons alone, I can't fathom that the hours he put into World Class bore no fruit.

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I don't know if this is at all likely, but if 2+2 passes, maybe another publisher would be willing to give it a shot.

scorer 08-20-2007 02:56 PM

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looks like this book will not be done, very unfortunate.

bbbushu 08-21-2007 02:56 PM

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[censored] [censored]

MarkD 08-21-2007 04:12 PM

Re: Status Ray Zee\'s Limit Hold\'em Book?
 
So the manuscript wasn't good enough?

I find this very surprising and disapointing.

VespaRally 08-21-2007 09:06 PM

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. . . pretty please?

MicroBob 08-22-2007 12:54 AM

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Even if the end result read like a Pynchon novel with the pages out of order, I'd shell out cash for it.

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