Who wants to explain the FedEx Cup
 

I kind of get it.........but still not really at all.

anyone want to explain it better than the pga tour does? b/c omg.

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Wiki explains it pretty well

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wiki >>>>>>>>>>>&gt ; pgatour

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Decent explanation here.

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/...-why-should-i/

Horrible [censored] idea.

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If I'm not misunderstanding this thing, it seems that the winner of the Tour Championship isn't necessarily the winner of this supposed playoff. And in a more extreme scenario, it's possible for someone to not play any of these "playoff" events and still end up with the "championship".

I don't really have a problem with having some sort of overall points race thing, but I guess I just don't see it as a "playoff". To me, playoffs always mean you have to win the final event to be declared the champion.

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And in a more extreme scenario, it's possible for someone to not play any of these "playoff" events and still end up with the "championship".

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I'm not sure this is possible. Care to explain?

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And in a more extreme scenario, it's possible for someone to not play any of these "playoff" events and still end up with the "championship".

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I'm not sure this is possible. Care to explain?

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Again, I may not have a firm understanding of all the rules, but assume something like the following:

-someone have a huge points lead coming in to these "playoff" tournaments
-a variety of people win and place high in these final 4 tournaments, distributing the points enough to where no one ends up catching this initial leader

To be extreme, say player A has won every tournament up until now. Isn't it feasible that no one could catch that person in points after the final 4 tournaments?

Or are there so many points up for grabs in these final four tournaments that it's just mathematically impossible to end up with the points lead if you don't play?

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Everyone is reseeded before the first event so that the top seed has something like a 15,000 point advantage over #144. Since winning an event gives 50,000 points, you do have to play to win.

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Everyone is reseeded before the first event so that the top seed has something like a 15,000 point advantage over #144. Since winning an event gives 50,000 points, you do have to play to win.

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Ah, okay. I knew it was likely I didn't know something about the rules. This is good, as it will force people to play the events, at least.

If they want to call it a playoff, I think they should do something more like what the LPGA does with the ADT Championship. I just hate seeing it called a playoff and a championship when the winner of it all doesn't even have to win the final event.

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Everyone is reseeded before the first event so that the top seed has something like a 15,000 point advantage over #144. Since winning an event gives 50,000 points, you do have to play to win.

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No event gets you near 50K points as the winner. 50K represents the TOTAL points given out to the players in the playoff events. you win 9K for winning one of the 3 playoff events preceding the Tour Champoinship and 10,300 for the final event.

Also, the points are "reset" after this week with the #1 seed receiving 100K points and a sliding scale of decreasing points down to 84,700 for the 144th seed. Why the don't just award 0 to 15K points I have no idea, I guess they think bigger numbers create the illusion of more action or something (kind of like how they kept doubling the starting chips in the NBC HU poker but also doubling the blinds, effectively changing nothing but the number of chips in play as the tourny progressed).

Finally, yes, it is possible to win the Fed Ex Cup and not win the Tour Championship, its a points race. It doesn't hinge on the result of just the final event. That said I believe it is mathematically impossible to sit it out as the #1 seed and win. However, you could easily sit one or even two out provided you win the other 2 or 3 you play.

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Wow, that article say's 10 mil for the winner. Is that true? That seems rediculous considering Tiger only won 7 mil for the season.

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My guess is that they had to build a HUGE prize pool for this in order to give it some legitimacy and interest the players. It's not a major, it looks like something NASCAR would do (which to me is unsexy), and they needed a full field.

So no doubt their agreement with FedEx gave them relentless advertising during every event - mentioning the FedEx point standings every day, making sure to call it "The Race for the FedEx Cup" or whatever it is, etc. etc. Just whoring the crap out of FedEx. In exchange FedEx gives the Tour the shitton of moneys needed to pay the players.

All this is my take anyway, not anything I've read anywhere so it could be way off.

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My guess is that they had to build a HUGE prize pool for this in order to give it some legitimacy and interest the players. It's not a major, it looks like something NASCAR would do (which to me is unsexy), and they needed a full field.

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I thought they admitted directly basing it off of the NASCAR race-for-the-cup thingy.

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Wow, that article say's 10 mil for the winner. Is that true? That seems rediculous considering Tiger only won 7 mil for the season.

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Apparently it is annuity money and there is some debate how to even pay the caddies, since the players won't be seeing the money right away. So I have read in a couple places. The whole thing is sort of funny.

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So no doubt their agreement with FedEx gave them relentless advertising during every event - mentioning the FedEx point standings every day, making sure to call it "The Race for the FedEx Cup" or whatever it is, etc. etc. Just whoring the crap out of FedEx. In exchange FedEx gives the Tour the shitton of moneys needed to pay the players.

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Isn't that how sponsorships are supposed to work? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

And I'm sure the sponsors and venues of the "playoff" events ponied something back to FedEx somehow. But RedEx does seem clearly invested in this, and despite its Nascar mimicry, it's probably a good move. The Super Bowl happened with the same kind of idea- imagine if some corporation had bought the 20-year sponsorship rights to that game back in 1967.

That said, I love Tiger's move too, from a business standpoint. It tells Fedex "Look, I crap bigger than your Cup, so you might want to think about making a deal with me personally, or else I'll sink the whole thing" but he also nominally respects the championship in case it does take off.

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I'm praying for some John Rollins type to get hot with four straight finishes between 5th & 10th and steal the thing, while Tiger & Phil really don't mind if they sit this one out... [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

That said, I'll stick with my prediction from the beginning of the season that Vijay has to be the strong favorite with this format.

The other strong favorite is of course: pass-1st-pass-1st = "*yaWn* Excuse me, was up late w/the baby, make out the annuity checks to the Tiger Woods Foundation, pleazzzzZZZzz *snore*"

I predict Phil goes 40th-pass-pass-DNQ.

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Has anyone seen a link that spells out the exact distribution of points for each "playoff" event? All I can find is that each event is worth 50K points with 9K to the winner - and the last event in Atlanta has 10,300 to the winner. I want to simulate some outcomes.

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The PGA website has this info.

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I kind of get it.........but still not really at all.

anyone want to explain it better than the pga tour does? b/c omg.

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Well, Mike Weir....here s how it works.....after today's poor round, Mike, tommorow is you last day. Just kiding..sorta.
I was disaponted Mike didn't play well today, but those two bogeys on 17 and 18 yesterday were huge.

As others have said it's all on the pgatour.com website. In fact, it looks more like the Fedex website now...

At first I thought that the paloff point system was too penal for the guys on the back-end, but nowI am Ok with it on the back end. I think it proves that you need to build up points during the year, as they are VERY important. You can play very good (see Rich Beem) and still not advance with a 3rd place finish.

The flaw that is becoming apparent though, is that if you are in the top 10 in fedex points going into the playoff, you can skip a tourney or miss 3 cuts and you will still play in the 4th of 4 events , even though they only take the top 30.

So, with the same format next year, the 1st and 2nd event will still not be as important for the top 10 or so players, so you may see even more people than Tiger skipping the first one next year.

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its okay i tee off in like 6 hours, but im pretty sure im going to shoot <64 today. I will be top 5 and move on to next week. I don't want to win the douche bag championship anyway, i will leave that honor to Arron Oberholser or Tiger Woods.