Elaborate Scam
 

I am sitting at a full table in a tourney when ADZ1224 messages me in the observer chat to trade FTP for stars. I have traded with this player before, so i figure its not a big deal. I get in contact him on aim via a mutual friend, and end up sending him 30k on ftp.

He starts acting suspicious in the aim chat, so i ask a few people if they know ADZ's screen name, and they say its not him. Finally, I sit down with ADZ on stars and get in communication with him through Roman, because ADZ is chatbanned on stars.

Turns out ADZ's email account was hacked, and they got his ftp password through the 'forgot password' thing. The scammer went straight to me because its likely I was the last guy in the account history that transferred with him.

Right now I am stuck 30, but the account has been frozen and is being investigated, so hopefully I get something back.

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How you guys don't insist on the person who wants to trade to transfer first is beyond me

GL however, hopefully FTP comes through

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How you guys don't insist on the person who wants to trade to transfer first is beyond me

GL however, hopefully FTP comes through

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its true. however, if it turns out that the money he transfers you is dirty, that poker site can take it back from you to give to the person he stole it from. basically passing the burden of the crime on to you. and i dont think the site who you transferred from is gonna care about it, if its an issue of the other site. so, dont make transfers with anybody you dont know.

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yeah was stupid on my part, but we had traded before, so i felt safe, and stars transfers take a lot longer than ftp transfers.

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"I get in contact him on aim via a mutual friend"

So a mutual friend was in on it too?

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no, my friend is just dumb and linked me to a scammer without telling me he didn't know who it was. so i assumed he knew it was ADZ.

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ADZ has known about this for a couple days yet I have seen the account on Stars playing just a few hours ago. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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ADZ has known about this for a couple days yet I have seen the account on Stars playing just a few hours ago. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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because he has access to his stars account, but not his full tilt.

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Well you said Adz1224. thought it was adz124.
Am I right?

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he was sitting at the high stakes PLO tables yday, hope he didnt bust your money [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I want to feel bad for you guys because a lot of you are nice and genuine good people, but when I read posts like this I can't help but think "jfc, how retarded do you have to be?" I only trade with people I've met in real life and we talk on the PHONE for significant trades.

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ADZ124(stars) = ADZ1224 (full tilt)

and i have traded with him before, its not like i just randomly decided to. his account wasn't hacked the first time i traded, obv.

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the bit about the mutual friend is still hazy to me.

had the scammer messaged friend in the past claiming to be adz?

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i'm still trying to figure out what the elaborate part was.

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This guy is a [censored]. He tried to scam me like 3 months ago (im almost positive its the same dude). He was impersinating ADZ and tried to get me to transfer money to him.

He also hacked Stinger's aim name and tried to get people to send him money as well. He is obviously a lowlife and a true failure at life. I don't hate many people, but I def hate his ass. Good luck with getting your money back.

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the bit about the mutual friend is still hazy to me.

had the scammer messaged friend in the past claiming to be adz?

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no, the scammer IM'ed the guy out of the blue apparently.

I get IM from the friend, who will remain anonymous at this time, saying "hey did you ask ADZ to IM me" which I say yes, because i dont have ADZ's contact info but I knew the friend did, so i said to contact me through that person.

so what happened is the scammer IM'ed the friend, and the friend linked to me without telling me that he had never seen this screen name before. so I was under the impression I was talking to the actual ADZ.

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the scammer is that stevdapimp guy

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prev - i see, understand now

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i recently got imed by adz124poker on aim who wanted to transfer. was that the same?

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Prev,

What type of communication did you use last time for transfer with ADZ?

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i recently got imed by adz124poker on aim who wanted to transfer. was that the same?

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Yeah same scumbag who imed me 3 months ago.

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I got IMed by ISCAMYOU and AZK confirmed that it was legit. I sent him 10K and now he's not responding to my IMs anymore. Any help would be appreciated.

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AIM SN luckbox242 just tried to scam me, do not trade with him under any circumstances.

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gl

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I got IMed by ISCAMYOU and AZK confirmed that it was legit. I sent him 10K and now he's not responding to my IMs anymore. Any help would be appreciated.

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NH

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I want to feel bad for you guys because a lot of you are nice and genuine good people, but when I read posts like this I can't help but think "jfc, how retarded do you have to be?" I only trade with people I've met in real life and we talk on the PHONE for significant trades.

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qft

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I got IMed by ISCAMYOU and AZK confirmed that it was legit. I sent him 10K and now he's not responding to my IMs anymore. Any help would be appreciated.

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lolol

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you guys are supposed to be genuises?

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you guys are supposed to be genuises?

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no, we're just rich and good at a card game.

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the scammer is that stevdapimp guy

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i wonder why he isnt sleeping with the fishes yet

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the scammer is that stevdapimp guy

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i wonder why he isnt sleeping with the fishes yet

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because he only preys on nerds with no social skills?

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I am sitting at a full table in a tourney when ADZ1224 messages me in the observer chat to trade FTP for stars. I have traded with this player before, so i figure its not a big deal. I get in contact him on aim via a mutual friend, and end up sending him 30k on ftp.

He starts acting suspicious in the aim chat, so i ask a few people if they know ADZ's screen name, and they say its not him. Finally, I sit down with ADZ on stars and get in communication with him through Roman, because ADZ is chatbanned on stars.

Turns out ADZ's email account was hacked, and they got his ftp password through the 'forgot password' thing. The scammer went straight to me because its likely I was the last guy in the account history that transferred with him.

Right now I am stuck 30, but the account has been frozen and is being investigated, so hopefully I get something back.

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This sucks, but don't feel to bad. There are levels of trust in this world and it's not that dumb to assume that if someone you know and has traded with you before is asking for money again...odds are you'll be ok. I mean, if your mom IMs you on her screen name and asks for a bank wire and you guys regularly wire money back and forth...are you going to deny her? Just have to come up with safer precautions, but any great scammer will probably be able to get around most short of voice verification.

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the scammer is that stevdapimp guy

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i wonder why he isnt sleeping with the fishes yet

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because he only preys on nerds with no social skills?

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and cause everybody is always like "omg someone should kill him"

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great analogy. i now understand why it is smart to not seek fool-proof corroboration from a rando on the internet because i would not take the same precautions if the request ostensibly came from my mom.

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the scammer is that stevdapimp guy

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i wonder how much he makes a year

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luckbox242 who i figured to be stevedapimp told me 200k total not sure how long not sure how accurate, probably not very.

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Prev,

What type of communication did you use last time for transfer with ADZ?

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he asked at the table on his ftp account, and then flashed account on stars to show it was him.

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DAMN that scam is pretty f in ELABORATE!!!

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AIM SN luckbox242 just tried to scam me, do not trade with him under any circumstances.

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he already scammed me out of 1k in ps but ps froze his account and sent it back. no tall of it but most.

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this person tried to scam mrTEA/ktrieu yesterday or the day before on full tilt