85o - Awkward Turn Card
 

I've recently started betting out on these flop more frequently. Doing so got me into a tough spot in this hand:

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $102.00
BB: $245.35
UTG: $39.35
MP: $120.80
CO: $51.10
BTN: $105.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, MP folds, CO calls $1.00, BTN calls $1.00, Hero calls $0.50, BB checks

Flop: ($5) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $3.00, CO folds, BTN calls $3.00

Turn: ($14) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $9.00</font>, UTG folds, BTN calls $9.00

River: ($32) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $21.00</font>, BTN calls $21.00

How's my line?

Re: 85o - Awkward Turn Card
 

need reads.

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Btn was playing 27/6/1.29 after 80 hands.

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This was my 2nd hand at the table, honestly. Btn was playing 27/6/1.29 after 80 hands.

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i believe you [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

utg?

i think this is ok, little less on turn and river i think.

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No stats or reads on UTG

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Do wou really think we are ahead on the river? I think c/c a small bet or c/f is better here?

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Erm ... I'm struggling to think. I'm guessing he's a donk from his stats so A8, A3 ...

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c/f flop. Betting into four players OOP with your weak kicker will just get you in trouble.

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OK, but once in trouble what do you do?

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c/f flop. Betting into four players OOP with your weak kicker will just get you in trouble.

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c/c def sucks, you can vb light on a paired board

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OK, but once in trouble what do you do?

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I don't think c/f the turn is so bad after you got two callers. Some of them has a 3 very often (there's as many 3's as 8's left in the deck).

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wtf you guys realize we hit TWO PAIR right? like... that's better than any ONE pair!

people call all [censored] day with 98 and 87, let alone A8. after that turn comes i'm def betting turn and river.

flop lead is meh you'll get called by 66 and 55 a decent amount here. if we had a better kicker i'd obv like it more, i probably check this though.

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Not 99+ ...

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yeah i guess a 27/6 might limp 99 but i really think he raises TT+

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wtf you guys realize we hit TWO PAIR right? like... that's better than any ONE pair!

people call all [censored] day with 98 and 87, let alone A8. after that turn comes i'm def betting turn and river.

flop lead is meh you'll get called by 66 and 55 a decent amount here. if we had a better kicker i'd obv like it more, i probably check this though.

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You do understand that Hero is only ahead when either both opponents have one of the two remaining 8's, one has an 8 the other has 44,66,77 or both have 44,66,77. And I don't think anyone of them will call with an underpair very often in a 5-way pot.

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I fold preflop.

I check flop with your kicker

Turn and river seem very standard to me

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wtf you guys realize we hit TWO PAIR right? like... that's better than any ONE pair!

people call all [censored] day with 98 and 87, let alone A8. after that turn comes i'm def betting turn and river.

flop lead is meh you'll get called by 66 and 55 a decent amount here. if we had a better kicker i'd obv like it more, i probably check this though.

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You do understand that Hero is only ahead when either both opponents have one of the two remaining 8's, one has an 8 the other has 44,66,77 or both have 44,66,77. And I don't think anyone of them will call with an underpair very often in a 5-way pot.

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UTG folded turn [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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i would check the flop. if ur gonna bet the flop then i agree with betting again on this turn, but i would bet less. i would think that villan would make some sort of raise by now with set/full house so when he just calls the flop and turn i would put him on a small pocket pair, 8x or amybe some kind or float like AK. But i would check this river and expect him to check behind. I dont think i would call a bet on the river and if he did bet at all it would confuse me.

Also can u please post the results

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But i would check this river and expect him to check behind. I dont think i would call a bet on the river and if he did bet at all it would confuse me.

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if you would call a bet on the river anyway, why on earth wouldnt you bet it yourself?

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if you would call a bet on the river anyway, why on earth wouldnt you bet it yourself?

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I agree with this, maybe get some kind of fold equity here, not much but a little I think it increasese your chances but him calling on ther river as played, I think you are beat

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Results????? What did he have????

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if you would call a bet on the river anyway, why on earth wouldnt you bet it yourself?

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I agree with this, maybe get some kind of fold equity here, not much but a little I think it increasese your chances but him calling on ther river as played, I think you are beat

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the words fold equity should have never appeared in this post.

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Results????? What did he have????

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The donk had QQ

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i check the flop

turn and river are fine....

also next time cut action off after hero bets the river so as not to influence responses

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flop is bet fold. two pair is no good because overpair has you beat/also 3.