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very frustrated with telling people what I do
i am just sick of this. what do you guys do, i know there must be TONS of ppl in my exact situation.
background: played for 15 months, never had a losing month, living off of poker for 1 year, not rich but more money than most friends/aquaintences my age. Family thinks I am a degenerate gambler probably. Friends I'm not sure, but those who know me well are ok with it. Girls I don't know are my real problem. Inevitably the "so... what do you do?" comes up, and "I play poker" just seems to get overwhelmingly terrible responses. Not a single f*cking time has her response ever been something like "wow, cool!" wtf? I think they either don't believe me, or think I'm some kind of gambling junky who has gotten lucky thus far. The question always comes up "well how much do you make?" and we all know how hard this is to finger, but I always just dodge the question with something like "well, I'd rather not get into specifics, but it pays my rent/bills with enough left over to have some fun too." I just get the feeling girls react to the whole "play poker for a living" thing VERY negatively, and it's been very frustrating for me lately. what do you guys do? p.s. I don't have a car currently (live 2 blocks from campus and really don't need one at all) but I keep thinking that if I had some decent car it would change things. Do you guys think this would change girls perspective of me playing poker? I've been thinking yes, but I'm curious what others have to say. |
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get 3million stars points and get urself a porsche that will teach'em
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lol, though you were joking, that would definately work i think.
though i was thinking more along the lines of a used 350Z (bout 20k) |
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Do you have anything else to your name besides a year of poker? A college degree?
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I keep thinking that if I had some decent car it would change things. Do you guys think this would change girls perspective of me playing poker?
This is not a good idea. Don't buy things to impress people. Do things with your money because you want to, not because it will make people think you are cool or rich. You may be happy for the moments when people are like, "wow, awesome car, did you pay for that with your poker winnings." And it will feel great to be like, "well ya, I did." I wouldn't pay $30-$50K for that feeling though. Save it for your future, investments, etc... If buying a car is what you want to do, by all means go for it, but if you are buying it just so people can see you in it, you will have buyer's remorse down the road, I can guarantee it. The thing that most annoys me is when friends/family ask you to do something and you tell them you are "working", and they say, "you can play poker anytime, come help me with this", or "let's go do this." I know exactly where you are coming from. I was in the store the other day with my sister. We see a lady who is/was very active with our high school. She is also a parent of a girl my age I went to school with. She asks what I am doing, and I say playing poker. She looks at me kind of funny, and says okay, but what are you doing for a job. I say, "Poker, I play full-time." I think she might have asked if I got my degree or something, I can't really remember the whole convo. Anyways, she just makes a joke about her kids play a little poker too(they are much younger) She says something along the lines of, "you kids all like to gamble huh?" Then she asks me if I'm going to start looking for a job. Basically, she went away acting as if I would be better off being a garbage man or something. People won't understand that you can do well playing poker. These are the people we make our money from. Don't worry about what others think. |
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i dont leave my house.
problem solved! |
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Do you have anything else to your name besides a year of poker? A college degree? [/ QUOTE ] yeah 9 units away from a college degree in a major i hate and want nothing to do with. a lot of good friends and a great family, not sure if that's answering your question though. |
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The only girls I've ever told have thought it was the coolest thing ever. However, I always tell people when I first meet them that I'm a student at UNLV. It is just easier to deal with when I first meet someone if they don't know what I do for a living or how much I make. That way if anything actually develops I know it wasn't for the wrong reasons.
IF on the other hand I am just trying to bang some girl that night, I let her know right away what I do for a living and definitely how much I make. Gold diggers and girls who look up to men with money are some of the easiest pussy ever. And I'm never calling this bitch so what do I care if she is attracted to my money. My entire family now knows what I do for a living. My mom and dad were originally apprehensive, but once you eclipse their earn, they tend to be quiet. My grandparents still want me to go back and get a degree I won't use, however. I may do it just to appease them and to have a plan B. As for the car.... looks matter when talking to girls. It sucks, but it's true. Dress nicely, drive a "decent" car (no need for anything excessive, my car is under 20k) and just have confidence in yourself and what you do. Then when you say you play poker "professionally" (use that word) you will be taken more seriously. |
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The only girls I've ever told have thought it was the coolest thing ever. However, I always tell people when I first meet them that I'm a student at UNLV. It is just easier to deal with when I first meet someone if they don't know what I do for a living or how much I make. That way if anything actually develops I know it wasn't for the wrong reasons. IF on the other hand I am just trying to bang some girl that night, I let her know right away what I do for a living and definitely how much I make. Gold diggers and girls who look up to men with money are some of the easiest pussy ever. And I'm never calling this bitch so what do I care if she is attracted to my money. My entire family now knows what I do for a living. My mom and dad were originally apprehensive, but once you eclipse their earn, they tend to be quiet. My grandparents still want me to go back and get a degree I won't use, however. I may do it just to appease them and to have a plan B. As for the car.... looks matter when talking to girls. It sucks, but it's true. Dress nicely, drive a "decent" car (no need for anything excessive, my car is under 20k) and just have confidence in yourself and what you do. Then when you say you play poker "professionally" (use that word) you will be taken more seriously. [/ QUOTE ] What kinda car do u drive outta curiosity? |
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A 2005 Flint Mica (Dark Greenish-Grey) Scion tC.
It is by no means anything spectacular, but it is fully paid for and in new condition; I also like that it is a coupe and has an all glass roof. All that matters is it is a late model and clean. You don't need a Bentley... girls just don't want a hooptie. |
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A 2005 Flint Mica (Dark Greenish-Grey) Scion tC. It is by no means anything spectacular, but it is fully paid for and in new condition; I also like that it is a coupe and has an all glass roof. All that matters is it is a late model and clean. You don't need a Bentley... girls just don't want a hooptie. [/ QUOTE ] Its true unfortunatly my 1996 Eagle vision is an old model but it still is in perfect condition with low miles, both major pluses |
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looks matter when talking to girls. It sucks, but it's true. Dress nicely, drive a "decent" car (no need for anything excessive, my car is under 20k) and just have confidence in yourself and what you do. [/ QUOTE ] alternatively, you can drive a piece of crap, and dress like a bum half the time...but if you can make the girl laugh and have just a little 'game' and have confidence in yourself and what you do it's not too hard. Although this whole 'car and clothes' priority might be a little different in Cal and LV. |
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[ QUOTE ] looks matter when talking to girls. It sucks, but it's true. Dress nicely, drive a "decent" car (no need for anything excessive, my car is under 20k) and just have confidence in yourself and what you do. [/ QUOTE ] alternatively, you can drive a piece of crap, and dress like a bum half the time...but if you can make the girl laugh and have just a little 'game' and have confidence in yourself and what you do it's not too hard. Although this whole 'car and clothes' priority might be a little different in Cal and LV. [/ QUOTE ] Listen to the old married guy talk?!?! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] |
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was married. not currently.
(not debating the 'old' part though) |
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He's old, but not married. Still, his approach could work with a blind girl. I have full confidence she would love you.
PS - "Game" as bob puts it is even more important than anything else. But without decent looks, you won't even get to say "hello". Pretty unfortunate, but true (at least in Vegas and Cali). |
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was married. not currently. (not debating the 'old' part though) [/ QUOTE ] oops my bad...havent slept in like 27 hours that's probably why |
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Your best bet is to pick up one of these babies! http://www.lada.de/index.php?seite=lada112
It's no honda, but its nice and new. I especially like the wing on the back. Makes you look like you just got off the set of fast and furious 3! Girls will go crazy for you. You will have to beat them off with a stick. |
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Wow, just wow.
Okay, we are straying off topic now... |
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The more un-beautiful you are, the more 'game' you need.
I'm 35, 5'6" and fairly bald. It's called Darwinism. If I didn't have something to make up for my less-than-stellar physical attributes my breed would have died long, long ago. [ QUOTE ] "Game" as bob puts it [/ QUOTE ] Am I so old that this term became out-dated/old-fashioned without me even realizing it? |
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Havenīt been in your situation, since i started to play after i met my girlfriend and have a fulltime job. But it have given me some insight in how "they" work...
Donīt mention poker at all, with your earlier experience, why blow all your chances at the first date, the first time you meet, wait until later...so she sees that your not some game addict... You should never be ashamed, just dont mention it. I think the key is to give the impression of a solid income and if poker comes up never, never mention any numbers, it will only increase their expectation if you continue dating. /Mike |
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alternatively, you can not own a car, and dress like a bum all the time...but if you can make the girl laugh and have just a little 'game' and have confidence in yourself and what you do it's not too hard. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, you probably dont need the game or confidence either. -SmileyEH |
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He's old, but not married. Still, his approach could work with a blind girl. I have full confidence she would love you. PS - "Game" as bob puts it is even more important than anything else. But without decent looks, you won't even get to say "hello". Pretty unfortunate, but true (at least in Vegas and Cali). [/ QUOTE ] True elsewhere too |
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[ QUOTE ] alternatively, you can not own a car, and dress like a bum all the time...but if you can make the girl laugh and have just a little 'game' and have confidence in yourself and what you do it's not too hard. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, you probably dont need the game or confidence either. -SmileyEH [/ QUOTE ] I agree with this. And I can add 'broke and unemployed' to this list. One particular stretch it was all part of my 'game'. because it's so ridiculous to actually BRAG about being "short, bald, old, broke and unemployed" that they just can't help but laugh. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] alternatively, you can not own a car, and dress like a bum all the time...but if you can make the girl laugh and have just a little 'game' and have confidence in yourself and what you do it's not too hard. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, you probably dont need the game or confidence either. -SmileyEH [/ QUOTE ] I agree with this. And I can add 'broke and unemployed' to this list. One particular stretch it was all part of my 'game'. because it's so ridiculous to actually BRAG about being "short, bald, old, broke and unemployed" that they just can't help but laugh. [/ QUOTE ] I'll give you that, it is pretty funny |
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I remember that this issue came up awhile ago. The best way to respnd to this question is "I work with retards." It's true and will let females know what a humanitarian you are.
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I remember that this issue came up awhile ago. The best way to respnd to this question is "I work with retards." It's true and will let females know what a humanitarian you are. [/ QUOTE ] LMAO! |
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I'm in your situation.
I just tell people I'm a proffessional poker player. If you make all of your money from poker then that is your title. If you go to college thats even better. "im playing poker proffessionally while I work on my degree. If you don't like that idea, tell people your parents support you or say you are a web developer. Thats how I got my 1st apartment. Most people I told didn't like it at first(confusion that its pure gambling), but I say it with confidence in my voice now and answer most reasonable questions with a quick simple response. I act like its normal. I would focus on the good things about poker. Money, spare time, you can do it whenever you want. If you act like your bragging they will become jealous which means they respect you now, but they dispise you on the inside because they have to work hard and you dont. OH WELL [censored] EM the goal is to make money, and your good at it so stand tall and be proud. As for the car, you might as well have one. Not to impress girls(although you can), get it for convienence. Trying to get rides is a pain in the ass. GL |
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Not a single f*cking time has her response ever been something like "wow, cool!" [/ QUOTE ] When one does say that, marry her! Cood |
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To be honest if your embarrased telling people about what you do, maybe they arent the sort of people you should be hanging around with. If your making good money why should it bother you what people think?
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if i said to anyone im a pro poker player(im not). They'd all be impressed.
Theres always the old "OHH BANKCRUPTY, BEATEN UP BY THE MOB, ADDICTION" thoughts running through their minds but it seems its quite the "hollywood" type job. People seem to be impressed in UK anyhow. |
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Dude, the universal reply to girls asking you what you do is telling them that you're Brad Pitt's ass double.
Her: So what do you do? You: I'm Brad Pitt's ass double. Her: Oh, really? You: Yeah, it's boring job, but he won't use anybody else. From there you just run with it. Make her feel your bum if she's not convinced. |
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If you're in school, why would you say anything other than "I'm a student"?
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If you're in school, why would you say anything other than "I'm a student"? [/ QUOTE ] |
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Dude, the universal reply to girls asking you what you do is telling them that you're Brad Pitt's ass double. Her: So what do you do? You: I'm Brad Pitt's ass double. Her: Oh, really? You: Yeah, it's boring job, but he won't use anybody else. From there you just run with it. Make her feel your bum if she's not convinced. [/ QUOTE ] brilliant |
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tell her your ptbb/100. after her blank stare, tell her you were just kidding, you're actually an underwear model for calvin klein.
OR, tell her you work with money management and risk assessment. -grant |
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Dude, the universal reply to girls asking you what you do is telling them that you're Brad Pitt's ass double. Her: So what do you do? You: I'm Brad Pitt's ass double. Her: Oh, really? You: Yeah, it's boring job, but he won't use anybody else. From there you just run with it. Make her feel your bum if she's not convinced. [/ QUOTE ] Haha, one of the few posts that I've had a chuckle with. Most humor doesn't humor me. On a serious note, I think the "professional" line helps, makes it sound more prestigious. Professional doesn't mean you have to be a master, i mean there are many "professions" out there that people in the field really have no idea what they're doing. And why not mention how much you make, it's probably like $50-$100/hr or so no? That's nothing to look down upon. Including the fact that ur a student may help to dilute the poker profession, too. |
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FWIW I can't remember the last time I had a negative reaction from anyone when I told them I played poker for a living. This includes a real estate agent and my current landlord. Most people's reaction is "wow, are you serious? I didn't think that was possible!" then it's "thats really cool, do you make much money?", then they find out I'm doing ok for a 20 year old backpacker. Commence normal conversation.
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Try myspace.com girls? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Without reading other responses, it seems you sorta have a big head about this poker thing. Then you add to this by saying you want to get a nice car to combat these negative feelings about poker. I doubt it would.
I also find it weird that it seems your family isn't in tune with what you are doing. Why not tell them? And on a final note, I doubt many if any long term pros have not had a losing month. GL and stay in school. |
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"In the game of life, women are the rake."
-Movie Quote from some movie, don't remember title. |
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