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jordiepop 08-09-2007 06:57 PM

qq gets check raises all in 200 bb deep
 
villian has three bet me a few times after i raise the button so i elect to just call here?? hes a 25/22/4 over 50 hands. i also elected to just call the flop as well?? do u call the turn?
all streets please...
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $248.35
CO: $50.20
Hero: $363
SB: $350.90
BB: $452.15

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $7</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $25</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($51, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $38</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($127, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $96</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $389.15</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero?

Imrahil 08-09-2007 06:59 PM

Re: qq gets check raises all in 200 bb deep
 
Fold.

jordiepop 08-09-2007 07:02 PM

Re: qq gets check raises all in 200 bb deep
 
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Fold.

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ur obv much better than me but at these levels i see jj AT aj+ hearts. and im worried about kk+ or tt and i think he would slow play tt. theres no merit to this thought process?

Imrahil 08-09-2007 07:08 PM

Re: qq gets check raises all in 200 bb deep
 
Don't think the guy is CRAI here w/ AT and JJ for 200bb.

Casper05 08-09-2007 07:10 PM

Re: qq gets check raises all in 200 bb deep
 
I think I check the turn this deep vs this guy.

pokahpaul 08-09-2007 07:28 PM

Re: qq gets check raises all in 200 bb deep
 
definitely check the turn. you can't afford to build a big against someone who's shown that much aggression and is as deep as you are with just an overpair. call a reasonable river bet.

suited77 08-09-2007 07:30 PM

Re: qq gets check raises all in 200 bb deep
 
against villain's range I think it's correct to check behind on the turn.

SABR42 08-09-2007 07:34 PM

Re: qq gets check raises all in 200 bb deep
 
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Don't think the guy is CRAI here w/ AT and JJ for 200bb.

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I don't think a good player will ever do this with AT or JJ, but overcards with a flush draws are definitely possible.

With that said I probably fold.

Enervate 08-09-2007 07:35 PM

Re: qq gets check raises all in 200 bb deep
 
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against villain's range I think it's correct to check behind on the turn.

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what would you say villains range is in this scenario?

Hince 08-09-2007 07:42 PM

Re: qq gets check raises all in 200 bb deep
 
You are beat here so often. It's hard to put him on a hand you beat.

I also like a turn check.

jordiepop 08-10-2007 07:54 AM

Re: qq gets check raises all in 200 bb deep
 
ignore

RocktheCasbah 08-10-2007 10:32 AM

Re: qq gets check raises all in 200 bb deep
 
i would check behind on turn. AS played I would (try to) fold turn

spacetime 08-10-2007 10:50 AM

Re: qq gets check raises all in 200 bb deep
 
I am torn between 4betting and just calling PF. 4bet because he likes to 3bet your button raise, call to trap. Meh.

Regardless you need to check this turn behind to establish pot control, be willing to call a decent bet on the river, vbet it if he checks to you (non scare of course). I like your reasoning behind flat calling pf, sucks being this deep.

edit: fold turn as played.


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